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Re: Apple Invites

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distantsounds wrote: post #239
roddylindsay wrote: post #28

Brilliant move. The transition of the major social networks over the last 10-15 years -- from being a space for friends to interact to being a space to consume content produced by "unconnected" entities like influencers -- has created a huge opening for someone to claim the friends and family network. There is no one better positioned (at least in the U.S. where iPhones are the majority handset) than Apple.

Brilliant? Launching an app for creating events that requires you to 1) own an iDevice and 2) pay into, just to create events? I'll send an email for free, thankyouverymuch.

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Re: Apple Invites

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Post by whstl »

ghaff wrote: post #247
tcmart14 wrote: post #202

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wonder if it is rooted in similar things though. Right, like with email. People don't really read or check emails because spam became a serious problem. Then with social media, looking at facebook, there is definitely a big different in ad space in facebook between the time I used to use it to now. Where ads have effectively become the "spam" equivalent for social media. Ultimately, did success of these technologie…

>People don't really read or check emails because spam became a serious problem. With the tabs in Gmail, very little leaks through to my primary inbox that isn't relatively immediately relevant (and not a lot of mail total). Often don't look at Promotions at all and maybe glance at Updates once a day or so. Email is useful for me though, yes, a lot of my interaction with my circle of friends is over texts.

The problem for me is not so much real spam, this gets filtered. The problem is the massive amount of work required to unsubscribe or clean up automated emails from apps and websites, both transactional and non-transactional.

I know way too many techy and non-techy people who have thousands of unread email messages from those apps.

A lot of people I know don't really answer to real email anymore, unless they know something is coming. It became just something you use to make accounts with.

Even corporate email is dying. 99% of my inbox is transactional emails from SaaS apps and spam from apps I forgot to delete. And 90% of the rest is spam from recruiters or people trying to sell me some product. Only 0.1% is legitimate.

Statistically, email is not for people anymore, period.

Re: Apple Invites

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Post by patrickkidger »

barbazoo wrote: post #147
Mindwipe wrote: post #88

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It still requires people to read a text message. It may as well be delivered via carrier pigeon outside the US.

Genuine question, is SMS text delivery unreliable where in certain countries?

I have a US number and live in Switzerland. At least for me, I only receive SMS messages whenever I visit the US -- the rest of the time they're just dropped and I'll never see them.

(Doesn't really bother me, my friends and I all use WhatsApp/etc. anyway.)

n=1 though, maybe this is some quirk of my phone provider.

Re: Apple Invites

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Post by pphysch »

blueelephanttea wrote: post #283
distantsounds wrote: post #239

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Brilliant? Launching an app for creating events that requires you to 1) own an iDevice and 2) pay into, just to create events? I'll send an email for free, thankyouverymuch.

> 1) own an iDevice You do not need to own an Apple device to either create events or join events. > I'll send an email for free, thankyouverymuch. This seems fine! There are open protocols (email, ics) if they work for you, but Apple specifically developed this in a way to neither require an Apple device or Apple Account to interact. Which is better than some of the competitors! (Facebook and Google tend to create s…

The first line of their press release:

> Apple today introduced Apple Invites, a new app for iPhone

If Android users have to login to a website to use this, what's the appeal? There are hundreds of simple meeting/event webapps out there, many not even requiring authentication.

Re: Apple Invites

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Post by pgwhalen »

ghaff wrote: post #282
pgwhalen wrote: post #191

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“iPhone-only social networking” has been very successful (amongst my US-based peer group, at least), once you include iMessage - that’s the point. I don’t know much about apple invites, but if it integrates well into iMessaging then this is a very strong play.

Though iMessage largely works in part because it's pretty much transparent if you send a text message.

I’m not sure I understand the “though” in this message but yeah, definitely the user interface of this social network is messaging.

Re: Apple Invites

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Post by skissane »

pkamb wrote: post #256
roddylindsay wrote: post #28

Brilliant move. The transition of the major social networks over the last 10-15 years -- from being a space for friends to interact to being a space to consume content produced by "unconnected" entities like influencers -- has created a huge opening for someone to claim the friends and family network. There is no one better positioned (at least in the U.S. where iPhones are the majority handset) than Apple.

I think Apple already has claimed the "friends and family network" via iMessage. Did Facebook go to a groups/influencer algorithm by choice or is it the result of IRL friend posters all moving to private chats once everyone got iPhones?

> I think Apple already has claimed the "friends and family network" via iMessage.

All the family/friends group chats I am in are WhatsApp.

I use iMessage every day for 1-to-1 messaging but I don’t really view it as distinct from SMS.

For international communication, even 1-on-1 tends to be WhatsApp.

Re: Apple Invites

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Post by blueelephanttea »

nimz wrote: post #227
turtlebits wrote: post #179

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You can generate a link to e-mail to anyone, which opens up a web page which you can RSVP from.

I tested it with a sample event and I don't see any way to RSVP without logging into an Apple account. Maybe I'm missing something?

> I tested it with a sample event and I don't see any way to RSVP without logging into an Apple account. Maybe I'm missing something?

You are. I explicitly created a burner email and invited it to an event.

When I navigated from the invite email I was prompted to sign in which I declined. It then allowed me to join the event after I confirmed with an emailed code.

On joining the event I was able to set my name and send a note.

Re: Apple Invites

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Post by plufz »

rozap wrote: post #287

I don't own and probably never will own an apple product but I'm very glad to see this. Anything that weakens Facebook's stranglehold over society is a good thing.

Haha, I do own a lot of Apple devices, but that was my first reaction as well. The main selling point of the app is to hurt Meta.

Re: Apple Invites

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Post by eknkc »

pkamb wrote: post #256
roddylindsay wrote: post #28

Brilliant move. The transition of the major social networks over the last 10-15 years -- from being a space for friends to interact to being a space to consume content produced by "unconnected" entities like influencers -- has created a huge opening for someone to claim the friends and family network. There is no one better positioned (at least in the U.S. where iPhones are the majority handset) than Apple.

I think Apple already has claimed the "friends and family network" via iMessage. Did Facebook go to a groups/influencer algorithm by choice or is it the result of IRL friend posters all moving to private chats once everyone got iPhones?

Everytime iMessage is mentioned, I do a double take because it is almost non existent here in Turkey. And from what I hear, seems like most Europeans do not use it too.

WhatsApp has like 99.9% market share here and I assume it is a lot bigger than anything else in the EU too.

I wonder why is that though. Everyone around me has an iPhone basically and I haven’t received a blue bubble in years. The messages app is not even on my home screen.

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