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John Siracusa's OS X 10.8 Mountain Lion Review

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Re: John Siracusa's OS X 10.8 Mountain Lion Review

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That's nice to see, thanks, but at a 50% premium over an MBA (including Windows tax).

I'm not sure which model you looked at, but I believe the 13"/4g/128gb is priced at $1100 msrp vs. similarly configured air at $1200. Microcenter had it for $1000 a few weeks ago.

I think I was probably looking at list price.

Re: John Siracusa's OS X 10.8 Mountain Lion Review

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If you go full screen, the app in full screen mode gets to use all your monitors. It gains control over every last pixel available to you. The other monitors are not unavailable, they are greyed out because the app you are using doesn’t take advantage of them. It could if it wanted to. That’s the decision Apple took. It makes sense† but it’s also utterly stupid. For some reason they stick to it. I don’t think it’s a…

How does DVD Player going full screen "not make sense" ? Don't you want movies full screen ? And if you have other monitors, you want them to be useless while, say, Quicktime is full-screened ? I have triple 30s on one side of the room, and a 60" on the other side of the room. With snow leopard (and presumably, any other OS) I can watch a DVD or other video output full-screen while other output continues to display o…

Why so angry? I totally agree with you. In all cases where Apple ported an already existing fullscreen mode to their new solution they fall flat on their face. It’s an awful experience if you have more than one screen. So that’s QuickTime and the DVD Player. Not a big deal.

Third party developers should just not use Apple’s stupid mode. Problem solved. (Though I don’t understand everyone’s sudden fullscreen love. It’s just goofy on a big screen expect for a select few use cases. Don’t use it. That has always been the Mac OS philosophy.)

Overall I don’t think it’s a big issue. A small minority of Mac users is affected by this problem in a tiny number of use cases. It sucks for them – but no need to whine for hours on end. That’s just annoying for the rest of us :-)

It seems like every single discussion about OS X is dominated by this stupid topic. It’s boring. Yeah, it sucks. Everyone knows it. Apple made a stupid decision. Can we talk about something more interesting now?

Re: John Siracusa's OS X 10.8 Mountain Lion Review

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The machine supports a maximum of 4GB, and believe me it only gets marginally better with the added 1GB. I guess Crucial also sells SSDs and Apple sells new MBPs with 16GB RAM :) - but at this juncture I hate to spend money on anything when the other supposedly more bloated OS named Win 7 works just great with 3GB - that seriously ought to be more than enough for browsing, email and occassional Word/PPT stuff. As for…

Agreed. I finally bit the bullet and upgraded my 4GB MBP to 16GB of memory. Officially unsupported, but it works like a charm.

May I ask what MBP you have?

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The new iCloud support is interesting. I just edited the same iCloud document in TextEdit on two different machines, and I gotta say that is really damn cool. On the other hand, this new iCloud support sadly highlights another unrelated new feature in Lion, and not in a good way: Automatic Termination. You must use TextEdit to browse your iCloud documents, which is fine, but TextEdit keeps fucking disappearing on you…

I can't recall ever experiencing auto termination on Lion or Mountain Lion throughout the DP previews. My hardware is nothing fancy -- 2011 MBA /w 4GB of RAM. What are your specs? Do you often have memory hungry applications open? Most of mine are pretty modest. I'm just curious what would cause such different results. Auto termination should definitely be the last resort and most low memory footprint apps should be totally excluded.

Re: John Siracusa's OS X 10.8 Mountain Lion Review

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The new iCloud support is interesting. I just edited the same iCloud document in TextEdit on two different machines, and I gotta say that is really damn cool. On the other hand, this new iCloud support sadly highlights another unrelated new feature in Lion, and not in a good way: Automatic Termination. You must use TextEdit to browse your iCloud documents, which is fine, but TextEdit keeps fucking disappearing on you…

I can't recall ever experiencing auto termination on Lion or Mountain Lion throughout the DP previews. My hardware is nothing fancy -- 2011 MBA /w 4GB of RAM. What are your specs? Do you often have memory hungry applications open? Most of mine are pretty modest. I'm just curious what would cause such different results. Auto termination should definitely be the last resort and most low memory footprint apps should be…

Unfortunately, there two different and unrelated features called "Auto Termination", which only muddies the water.

One feature aims to preserve system resources during low memory conditions in way that's completely invisible to the user.

The other forcefully removes running applications from the Dock and Command-Tab list even though these apps remain running in the background.

My frustration is with the latter feature.

Re: John Siracusa's OS X 10.8 Mountain Lion Review

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Repeated swapping to an SSD wears it out faster. Mountain Lion does in fact swap less than Lion due to some VM improvements.

If a machine is at all usable with a mechanical swap disk, then there's not enough swapping happening to worry about the effect on the longevity of an SSD.

Sometimes I'm not sure which side of the "at all usable with a mechanical swap disk" line OS X is on. It certainly tested the boundaries of my personal threshold of "usable", at least. Spinny beach ball, spinny, spinny ball.

Switching to a MacBook Air and thus solid-state storage made OS X an entirely new operating system for me. I'm in no hurry to ever use it on a spinning platter disk again.

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Is it just me, or did anyone else notice an increase in graphics performance? I did not measure, but it should be significant, as I am noticing it in normal usage.

I'll hook it up to an external monitor later to try and stress it a little bit more.

I have a Late 2009 Macbook White, with 8GB and an SSD.

Re: John Siracusa's OS X 10.8 Mountain Lion Review

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TL;DR "In some ways, Mountain Lion is a refinement, enhancement, and yes, a major bug-fix for Lion . But the changes and additions are significant enough that they will inevitably come with their own set of bugs. Let's not forget Snow Leopard, which promised no new features but still brought plenty of bugs in its 10.6.0 release." I hope they fixed memory management - Lion is too swap happy and slow on a decent 3Gb RA…

Win-Mac integration annoyances mean it's not a Win-Win I laughed

Ha! (Unintentional tbh)
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