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Re: Apple Invites

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Post by 2muchcoffeeman »

joshstrange wrote: post #233
2muchcoffeeman wrote: post #214

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Marketplace and groups. Most of my friends are on WhatsApp so we ditched FB. Apple would be smart to build those things and make it available on Android too. Then we could ditch FB altogether.

Yep, groups was essentially all I used FB for until we moved to Discord (which much better for us), I was so glad when I could stop checking FB completely.

It’s the community and interest groups that are really hard to migrate. There needs to be an easy migration route or something.

Other wise FB is really garbage. Just irrelevant suggestions and no amount of blocking trains the algorithm since they are just trying to make money.

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Post by mewse-hn »

RIMR wrote: post #213
roddylindsay wrote: post #28

Brilliant move. The transition of the major social networks over the last 10-15 years -- from being a space for friends to interact to being a space to consume content produced by "unconnected" entities like influencers -- has created a huge opening for someone to claim the friends and family network. There is no one better positioned (at least in the U.S. where iPhones are the majority handset) than Apple.

The problem is that by vendor-locking these services to Apple users, they create an environment that alienates non-Apple users. If they want to truly claim the friends & family network, they need to remember that everyone has friends & family that aren't in the Apple ecosystem. So long as Facebook remains available to everyone, even if the content feed is a mess, the event planning space is going to be more accessibl…

> So long as Facebook remains available to everyone, even if the content feed is a mess, the event planning space is going to be more accessible to everyone and will end up being the defacto friends & family ecosystem.

For now. We're in the process of seeing Twitter die like every other social network has died before it, Facebook will have it's time as well.

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Post by PaulHoule »

Even though "... anyone can RSVP, regardless of whether they have an Apple Account or Apple device" I think this being an Apple branded service is going to make this appear exclusionary and will mean some people won't participate even if they could.

I see the same risk involved with Apple TV's branding; Apple TV works great on Xbox, on NVIDIA Shield and on PC. I'm sure though there are a lot of people who just decide that shows like Foundation and subscriptions like MLS Season's Pass just aren't for them. I don't know if it is a 5% or a 20% drop but it has to be real.

Re: Apple Invites

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Post by nicoburns »

I'm definitely in the market for something like to replace Facebook Events which was a fantastic piece of functionality that unfortunately isn't so useful now that so many people have left Facebook. But this kind of functionality is pretty useless if it doesn't have first-class support for users of non-apple devices.

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Post by pkamb »

roddylindsay wrote: post #28

Brilliant move. The transition of the major social networks over the last 10-15 years -- from being a space for friends to interact to being a space to consume content produced by "unconnected" entities like influencers -- has created a huge opening for someone to claim the friends and family network. There is no one better positioned (at least in the U.S. where iPhones are the majority handset) than Apple.

I think Apple already has claimed the "friends and family network" via iMessage. Did Facebook go to a groups/influencer algorithm by choice or is it the result of IRL friend posters all moving to private chats once everyone got iPhones?

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Post by scarface_74 »

DashAnimal wrote: post #40
koalalorenzo wrote: post #18

I really needed this, I have not used Facebook Events in a while though that is the only way to easily engage and plan: the "ease of use" (as lazyness of not having to deal with many other issues) is way better than Calendar invites. I'll try to use it on my next event with my friends, as I am avoiding as much as I can Meta, and Calendar / ical are not the best to deal with this kind of event! :)

Why not Partiful? It's already widely adopted, has all the features you need, isn't owned by a big tech company, doesn't require an account, and is multiplatform. Signed, an Android user

How long do you think a money losing startup will be around before you read about “our amazing journey”?

Re: Apple Invites

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Post by scarface_74 »

cglan wrote: post #54
DashAnimal wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why not Partiful? It's already widely adopted, has all the features you need, isn't owned by a big tech company, doesn't require an account, and is multiplatform. Signed, an Android user

everyone I know uses partiful for events these days

Maybe you should get out of your bubble…

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Post by ghaff »

ojhughes wrote: post #234
wenc wrote: post #186

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Platform fragmentation is a generational thing. I thought email was a common denominator but I learned most people don’t check email or check it rarely. So different from the days when everyone had email. I still use FB and so do many of my friends my age (mid to late 40s). But a bunch have also migrated to Instagram. Among the younger generation, you’re a millennial if you’re on instagram because they’ve moved to Ti…

It’s interesting that WhatsApp never caught on in the US. It’s ubiquitous amongst everyone I know. Android use also seems to be much larger in Europe

I don't remember the exact timeline but I think SMS became free (bundled with mobile phone plan) in the US before WhatsApp became popular. And most of us don't interact via chat very much internationally. So (probably) most people just default to SMS/iMessage unless there's a reason to do something differently. And even the one person I regularly communicate with chat in Europe, we default to Facebook Messenger.

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Post by PaulHoule »

inetknght wrote: post #221
tcmart14 wrote: post #202

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I wonder if it is rooted in similar things though. Right, like with email. People don't really read or check emails because spam became a serious problem. Then with social media, looking at facebook, there is definitely a big different in ad space in facebook between the time I used to use it to now. Where ads have effectively become the "spam" equivalent for social media. Ultimately, did success of these technologie…

I think you've hit the nail on the head of the problem. A lot of comments online claim that people don't care about spam, or think that advertisements are a good thing for a free service, or at the very least won't change their habits if given an alternative. If that's the case then what's a better explanation for your observations? I argue that people do care, even if it's perhaps not expressed in words.

A lot of legitimate email (password resets and stuff) gets eaten up by spam filters
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