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Re: Apple Invites

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post #186

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Platform fragmentation is a generational thing. I thought email was a common denominator but I learned most people don’t check email or check it rarely. So different from the days when everyone had email. I still use FB and so do many of my friends my age (mid to late 40s). But a bunch have also migrated to Instagram. Among the younger generation, you’re a millennial if you’re on instagram because they’ve moved to Ti…

I wonder if it is rooted in similar things though. Right, like with email. People don't really read or check emails because spam became a serious problem. Then with social media, looking at facebook, there is definitely a big different in ad space in facebook between the time I used to use it to now. Where ads have effectively become the "spam" equivalent for social media. Ultimately, did success of these technologie…

I think you've hit the nail on the head of the problem.

A lot of comments online claim that people don't care about spam, or think that advertisements are a good thing for a free service, or at the very least won't change their habits if given an alternative. If that's the case then what's a better explanation for your observations?

I argue that people do care, even if it's perhaps not expressed in words.

Re: Apple Invites

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My wife is in a position (board chair for a co-op) that results in her sending out a lot of invites to events. Evite has kinda been the go-to in her social/co-op group for ages, but man it suuuuuuucks these days. Ads everywhere, annoying patterns, and lacks a bunch of nice features that this seems to have.

Very happy to see this

Re: Apple Invites

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post #171

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Unfortunately you need an iPhone to create the invite, or contribute anything else than a reply. They have to know their uncoolness is tolerated but not welcomed in the walled garden.

Mission Accomplished. iOS is a significantly large enough market that it will have some success for those looking to replace FB/evite. You can say the same thing about FB/Whatsapp or any other social network - you have to be in-network to get the invite even. Looking forward to testing this out for some events.

Most social networks don't have a $5-600 buy-in cost though.

Re: Apple Invites

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When I did this almost 2 years ago with Midjourney, people came at me and started harassing me. It was just a party invite but people hated that I used AI. I guess I just needed to wait until the gatekeepers or a rich white man to do it for it to be socially acceptable. The pain from these AI luddites was real. I have strongly negative feelings for how Big Tech manipulated everyone into attacking everyone who was doi…

you probably released your thing right when anti-AI art started taking off online. Even though people generally dislike AI art now and see it as tacky, you have to remember that Apple can do no wrong. So when they use AI image generation as a gimmick, no one wants to embarrass themselves and be like the next ballmer saying that the iphone won't take off.

Same goes for Apple's moves in the VR space: no one wants to come out and say that it's a stupid idea, because weirder things have worked in the past. Airpods are a counterexample and were initially seen as gimmicky and overpriced, but are now everywhere.

I think it just goes to show that a lot of consumer tech depends on the company image and wider culture. Google glass was pretty much ahead of its time, but was killed due to terrible rep, even though thats exactly the type of thing people are trying to make now.

Re: Apple Invites

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post #159

Unless they add some basic functionality to include Android users, this is the evilest use of their walled garden yet.

What's preventing Google from competing and making their own better version of this? I don't see where there's anything that Apple is doing here that couldn't be easily replicated by them using their own ecosystem.

I'm not a fan of either doing this. I'm watching all open protocols slowly disappear and it's killing innovation in the industry.

Re: Apple Invites

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Maybe it's just me, but seems a bit extreme for what amounts to a fancy calendar invite.

Extreme? A subscription costs $1/mo and includes other features.

>other features

Yeah, for people who own Apple hardware...

Re: Apple Invites

#227

Unless they add some basic functionality to include Android users, this is the evilest use of their walled garden yet.

You can generate a link to e-mail to anyone, which opens up a web page which you can RSVP from.

I tested it with a sample event and I don't see any way to RSVP without logging into an Apple account. Maybe I'm missing something?

Re: Apple Invites

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post #52

It's always nice to see some first-party apps from Apple[0], but historically the "iPhone-only social networking" hasn't been very successful — iTunes Ping or Game Center haven't been a huge hit, while group messaging in iMessage has only gained some traction within the US and virtually non-existent almost everywhere else. --- [0] One can even say "first first-party party app" in this case :)

If the plethora of iCalendar email attachments I've seen over the years (despite not owning any Apple devices or using their software) is any indication, I'm not sure that only being on Apple devices will be a significant barrier to people trying to coordinate stuff with this.

Re: Apple Invites

#229

Apple has lost its way. Who is this for?

For people who have enough drive to plan an event, but not enough drive to use a real photograph for the invite instead of GenAI.

Re: Apple Invites

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post #171

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Mission Accomplished. iOS is a significantly large enough market that it will have some success for those looking to replace FB/evite. You can say the same thing about FB/Whatsapp or any other social network - you have to be in-network to get the invite even. Looking forward to testing this out for some events.

In the US yeah it is. In the rest of the world, not so much.

The US market is probably big enough to make the service a success. Sometimes you don't need to be the biggest to be good enough.
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