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Re: Words flagged in search of current NSF awards

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post #71

I remember how "master" and "slave" were banned a few years back in information technology context and people cheered that ban. And surprise surprise, the same mechanism of arbitrary bans can be turned 180 degrees. And it appears that if the only criteria is a superficial offense at the established word unrelated to the imaginary offense, then many different people can use that same mechanism to ban or attack whateve…

Can you point me when Biden or Obama issued a word ban around the words master and slave in an IT context? Thank you.

Can you point to where Trump issued a word ban for grant funded research? Not this post, because it's not describing a word ban and it doesn't even seem to have a source.

Re: Words flagged in search of current NSF awards

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That hashtags-of-interests thing is a standardish Mastodon style. Used to be somewhat common on Twitter about a decade ago iirc.

Mastodon’s original core user base is largely people who left Twitter in 2016, so it preserves a few fossilised old-Twitter things.

Re: Words flagged in search of current NSF awards

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Truthfully, the words are not "forbidden". Using them in a grant application might decrease the chances of receiving a grant. Nothing stops anyone from using them.

Just like getting demonetized on YouTube, then. Maybe we'll see grant proposals to study "dis@bility progression in Multiple Sclerosis", "light p0larization" and "weights and b!ases"

Re: Words flagged in search of current NSF awards

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can you point me when Biden or Obama issued a word ban around the words master and slave in an IT context? Thank you.

Can you point to where Trump issued a word ban for grant funded research? Not this post, because it's not describing a word ban and it doesn't even seem to have a source.

I can in fact. Trump literally just issued a mass retraction and censorship of research publication depending on a set of keywords [1]. That is, by definition, a word ban for CDC-funded research. In fact you posted in that thread on HN, so you should already be very well aware of it.

[1] https://insidemedicine.substack.com/p/breaking-news-cdc-orde...

Re: Words flagged in search of current NSF awards

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post #14

In particle physics we usually use these terms which will be at any proposal. This is an interesting textbook definition of false positives when you have list that is using too common words. - Minimum "Biased" data - "Discrimination" or "Discriminatory" variables - Phase space "excluded" - "Inclusion" of data/variable/anything - "inequality" -> wow bell's inequality and all this theory work about inequalities will be…

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Re: Words flagged in search of current NSF awards

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post #14

In particle physics we usually use these terms which will be at any proposal. This is an interesting textbook definition of false positives when you have list that is using too common words. - Minimum "Biased" data - "Discrimination" or "Discriminatory" variables - Phase space "excluded" - "Inclusion" of data/variable/anything - "inequality" -> wow bell's inequality and all this theory work about inequalities will be…

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Re: Words flagged in search of current NSF awards

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post #119

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> Reading comprehension is shocking, not just in you but most people here. The post just said "can cause a grant to be pulled". That's entirely consistent with this list being a screening filter and somebody will look at what the grant/application is actually for. Both the post and the comment you are replying to used the term "flagged". Best I can tell, they aren't claiming what you seem to think they are claiming.

That's true. I was really generally replying to other comments but put it on this one because it was quite specific. You're quite right, an internal flag isn't a ban.

Re: Words flagged in search of current NSF awards

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post #71

I remember how "master" and "slave" were banned a few years back in information technology context and people cheered that ban. And surprise surprise, the same mechanism of arbitrary bans can be turned 180 degrees. And it appears that if the only criteria is a superficial offense at the established word unrelated to the imaginary offense, then many different people can use that same mechanism to ban or attack whateve…

I wasn’t crazy about moving away from master, but this isn’t a word ban, it’s a concept ban. They’re not really banning the word diversity, they’re banning the study of diversity by any name. Renaming master to main, doesn’t mean that you can’t do trunk based development, it just means you’re using a different term.

Are they actually banning it? Or do they just say "we are not paying for that kind of research that we see brings no value to our society"?
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