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Re: Words flagged in search of current NSF awards

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Here's a study that looked at precisely the kind of thing this policy will address: https://www.cspicenter.com/p/increasing-politicization-and-h... To be clear, I would be in support of this policy even if there was no evidence because it sets a tone that I think is positive.

The tone it sets is that "we don't care about studying anything relating to minorities or people who weren't born with a silver spoon" which I wouldn't call a positive tone.

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Re: Words flagged in search of current NSF awards

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The tone it sets is that "we don't care about studying anything relating to minorities or people who weren't born with a silver spoon" which I wouldn't call a positive tone.

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The list very clearly spells it out and it will go that far if it hasn't already.

Re: Words flagged in search of current NSF awards

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You're not being very charitable, have you considered that you may be letting your biases have an undue influence on your judgement here?

I was being charitable by asking whether you are gullible or a parrot. Gullible is the charitable interpretation. This whole action has been done on a pretext of lies: getting politics out of science, when it fact is is putting politics into science.

The politics was already in the science. So in the same spirit of being charitable that you afforded me, are you naive or foolish?

Re: Words flagged in search of current NSF awards

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I was being charitable by asking whether you are gullible or a parrot. Gullible is the charitable interpretation. This whole action has been done on a pretext of lies: getting politics out of science, when it fact is is putting politics into science.

The politics was already in the science. So in the same spirit of being charitable that you afforded me, are you naive or foolish?

Politics and science are inseparable. There is no such thing as no politics in science.

Re: Words flagged in search of current NSF awards

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In particle physics we usually use these terms which will be at any proposal. This is an interesting textbook definition of false positives when you have list that is using too common words. - Minimum "Biased" data - "Discrimination" or "Discriminatory" variables - Phase space "excluded" - "Inclusion" of data/variable/anything - "inequality" -> wow bell's inequality and all this theory work about inequalities will be…

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Please don't cross into personal attack or name-calling, regardless of how wrong another comment is or you feel it is.

If you wouldn't mind reviewing https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and taking the intended spirit of the site more to heart, we'd be grateful.

Re: Words flagged in search of current NSF awards

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Please don't cross into personal attack, regardless of how wrong another comment is or you feel it is.

If you wouldn't mind reviewing https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and taking the intended spirit of the site more to heart, we'd be grateful.

Re: Words flagged in search of current NSF awards

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post #71

I remember how "master" and "slave" were banned a few years back in information technology context and people cheered that ban. And surprise surprise, the same mechanism of arbitrary bans can be turned 180 degrees. And it appears that if the only criteria is a superficial offense at the established word unrelated to the imaginary offense, then many different people can use that same mechanism to ban or attack whateve…

Can you point me when Biden or Obama issued a word ban around the words master and slave in an IT context? Thank you.

Re: Words flagged in search of current NSF awards

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post #71

I remember how "master" and "slave" were banned a few years back in information technology context and people cheered that ban. And surprise surprise, the same mechanism of arbitrary bans can be turned 180 degrees. And it appears that if the only criteria is a superficial offense at the established word unrelated to the imaginary offense, then many different people can use that same mechanism to ban or attack whateve…

There was never a ban like this on the master-slave terminology. A lot of places started moving away from those terms, but plenty of others just kept the old naming. There was no top-down directive from the federal government like there is here - I don't think it's fair to compare them as if they are equivalent situations. This is heavy-handed in a way that makes peer pressure look completely benign in comparison.
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