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Re: Apple Invites

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Post by _mlbt »

ahmeneeroe-v2 wrote: post #84
morsecodist wrote: post #20

Unfortunately, I have to hope this doesn't see widespread adoption. If this becomes the standard it will just add to already existing social pressure to get an iPhone in the US.

Im literally sick over the thought of the increased social pressure

I mean this completely seriously and as a concerned internet stranger...if that is literally true for you, please go seek mental health services right now. That's not normal or healthy.

All my social circles where we communicate over SMS/RCS group text chats consist of a little gentle ribbing about "those darn green bubble people" and that's about the extent of it. The Android users occasionally respond in kind by showing off some cool new feature that Samsung or Google came up with that Apple hasn't copied yet and everybody laughs it all off.

Re: Apple Invites

#162

Post by _mlbt »

lynndotpy wrote: post #66
jbentley1 wrote: post #24

Unless they add some basic functionality to include Android users, this is the evilest use of their walled garden yet.

They also seem to have a web-only version too, but it requires an Apple account. Refreshing coming from Apple.

In Apple's defense, they tend to have web versions of most of their iCloud services. They even recently released a web version of Apple Maps.

Re: Apple Invites

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Post by morsecodist »

sentientslug wrote: post #142
morsecodist wrote: post #20

Unfortunately, I have to hope this doesn't see widespread adoption. If this becomes the standard it will just add to already existing social pressure to get an iPhone in the US.

To me this argument makes no sense. Apple should never introduce any new features or services to their ecosystem because it might increase “social pressure” to get an iPhone?

I would say the more a given app/feature has network effects the more invested I am in it being cross-platform. For example, iMessage and Facetime are highly social. Apple was resistant to adopting the RCS protocol for iMessage, though they eventually caved and now the experience of texting between iPhones and Androids is better for both parties so it seems preferable to me.

Meanwhile, we take it for granted that there is a protocol for audio calls and text messages but not for video calls. I would like to more easily video call people with iPhones, and doing so would be technically possible but I can't because Apple benefits from the network effect. If I were to get an iPhone it would not be because Apple did a better job at creating a video call feature, it will be because people I know have iPhones and I want to call them. This seems like it gives incumbents in the space a large advantage because they can compete on having a user base and not on quality.

Ironically, Apple itself developed such a protocol for events and RSVPs (ICS), at a time when they didn't have market dominance. This caught on and it is great. I can make a calendar event in Google Calendar, Outlook, or Apple Calendar and invite anyone from any of those platforms. They can RSVP and I can track their RSVPs and they can also create events in their systems and invite me. This is the kind of thing I like to encourage where possible.

Re: Apple Invites

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Post by tonyedgecombe »

_mlbt wrote: post #159
jbentley1 wrote: post #24

Unless they add some basic functionality to include Android users, this is the evilest use of their walled garden yet.

What's preventing Google from competing and making their own better version of this? I don't see where there's anything that Apple is doing here that couldn't be easily replicated by them using their own ecosystem.

Google would stuff it full of adverts and tracking. For that reason it wouldn’t be better.

Re: Apple Invites

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Post by killerdhmo »

probably_wrong wrote: post #74
kube-system wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

From the third sentence of TFA: > anyone can RSVP, regardless of whether they have an Apple Account or Apple device.

The article also says "collaborative playlists allow Apple Music subscribers to create a curated event soundtrack" so there's clearly a subset of functionality that's only available for certain users. There's "integration with Maps and Weather", but how does that look like in Android? Can I still "contribute to Shared Albums"?

Shared Albums, Apple Web, are all available on the web.

Re: Apple Invites

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Post by tetrisgm »

Considering all the event invites I’ve gotten in the past two years are either Partiful or SecretParty, this is a cool development. Wonder which service people will end up using more.

This might integrate better with Calendar and Wallet. That said I can see web and Android users being apprehensive.

Also your Apple ID is t necessarily your “party id“.

Re: Apple Invites

#169

Post by killerdhmo »

I_ wrote: post #13
sjacob wrote: post #2

Looks like an Apple version of Partiful?

Was about to say this. Though less useful, because Partiful doesn't require an app so can be used by anyone. I wonder how much the network effect may be leveraged for apps like these, to the benefit or detriment of apps like Partiful in comparison with Invites. I know Facebook's last useful feature appears to be events in many circles.

Apple Invites can be used on the web. https://www.icloud.com/invites/
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