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Great point, Hetzner has a great price, or even discuss with them a sponsorship too?
Hetzner has a great price but it plays not in the same league as AWS. It's cheap and good enough for some applications but I wouldn't call Hetzner a professional service.
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Hetzner is hosted in Germany. AWS is controlled by US company. US sanction laws are legal nightmare, quicksand that constantly changes. Major global infrastructure projects like Freedesktop should avoid US!
Software In The Public Interest Inc. (creators of free desktop) is incorporated in New York so they have to follow US sanction law anyways.
PS: Sorry for the off-topic discussion.
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Hetzner Cloud is definitely professional enough to place most production systems on it. Sure, servers might die at times, but this also happens at AWS and can be avoided by using multiple servers in a HA configuration.
Are you running a production system on it? One that makes money and loses money when down?
Per the ongoing Freedesktop discussion, AWS offered to host but Freedesktop is leaning towards self-hosting on Hetzner so they can control their own destiny and sponsors can contribute cash towards the bill instead of donating hardware. > https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/freedesktop/freedesktop/-/iss...
I saw their original announcement and they said that their infra (3 AMD EPYC from generations ago, 3 Intel servers from 2 generations ago, 2 80-core ARM servers) would cost $24k/month at Equinix prices. I checked Hetzner's equivalent offerings, it would be ~$1.5k/month for newer AMD servers. It would probably be even less if they went with older servers listed at their auction. And it probably would be even less if t…
Yes yes there are cloud features now offered by VPS providers, but they are add ons to chase demand, they aren't positioning their offering to appeal to users wanting a comprehensive suite of services on the platform. Managed databases, SMTP as a service, deployment as a service etc etc etc. For that reasons market rates are different.
For Hetzner to bump their prices significantly they would need to build a cloud platform a la AWS/GCP/Azure. Won't happen by Xmas even if went all in. They are good at what they do and make money so they stick to that.
RHEL (IBM) is doing well, why can't they provide free hosting and at the same time show off their cloud products ? RHEL benefits from freedesktop and X, and as a show of good faith they could support Alpine too. But as we all know, RHEL/IBM only wants to take free labor and not really give back these days :(
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Are you running a production system on it? One that makes money and loses money when down?
Do you? Everybody I know is happy with what Hetzner provides, even at production level. OTOH, "arguably better" DigitalOcean sent me a "Your physical host died, so we restarted it. If it persists, we'll migrate" e-mail, which just shows the reality of the hardware. On your question, while I do not have services on Hetzner yet, I manage a lot of servers, so I know dynamics of a datacenter and what it entails to keep o…
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Do you? Everybody I know is happy with what Hetzner provides, even at production level. OTOH, "arguably better" DigitalOcean sent me a "Your physical host died, so we restarted it. If it persists, we'll migrate" e-mail, which just shows the reality of the hardware. On your question, while I do not have services on Hetzner yet, I manage a lot of servers, so I know dynamics of a datacenter and what it entails to keep o…
I had enough trouble with them that I don't even consider.
RHEL (IBM) is doing well, why can't they provide free hosting and at the same time show off their cloud products ? RHEL benefits from freedesktop and X, and as a show of good faith they could support Alpine too. But as we all know, RHEL/IBM only wants to take free labor and not really give back these days :(
RHEL (IBM) is doing well, why can't they provide free hosting and at the same time show off their cloud products ? RHEL benefits from freedesktop and X, and as a show of good faith they could support Alpine too. But as we all know, RHEL/IBM only wants to take free labor and not really give back these days :(
Aren't they (Red Hat) one of the biggest contributor to Wayland ?
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I saw their original announcement and they said that their infra (3 AMD EPYC from generations ago, 3 Intel servers from 2 generations ago, 2 80-core ARM servers) would cost $24k/month at Equinix prices. I checked Hetzner's equivalent offerings, it would be ~$1.5k/month for newer AMD servers. It would probably be even less if they went with older servers listed at their auction. And it probably would be even less if t…
VPS business is very different than the "cloud" space. Yes yes there are cloud features now offered by VPS providers, but they are add ons to chase demand, they aren't positioning their offering to appeal to users wanting a comprehensive suite of services on the platform. Managed databases, SMTP as a service, deployment as a service etc etc etc. For that reasons market rates are different. For Hetzner to bump their p…
Their cloud always had on-demand, per-hour billing of servers and block storage volumes, all very easy to manage and provision via their API. Recently they got into object storage space. They even provide a switch to connect their cloud servers with a dedicated one, so you can have, e.g, a beefy GPU server running a LLM model and your web service auto running on the cheap.
I believe that the only thing that really holds Hetzner at their price levels is that the price-sensitive people can always threaten to move to OVH.