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Re: Our channel on YouTube has been deleted due to “spam and deceptive policies”

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Post by brudgers »

grishka wrote: post #72
readyplayernull wrote: post #12

This happens all the time in Google Play, how do you protect against random take downs? You have several copies of your dev account or channel. That's it, you become a spammer to defend against the bot that "protects" us from spammers.

That's a bad advice. Firstly, Google is known to ban developer accounts "by association". They will easily ban all of your copies all at once. Secondly, apps are identified by globally unique package IDs. If one account has claimed an ID, no other account can use it ever again. So even if you do republish your app, you have no way to make your existing users update to that version. It will be considered a different a…

Probably even worse for the advice is that client accounts can be associated with a banned developer's account...I remember reading a dumpster-fire of an ASK HN (a tire fire for the people actually effected).

Re: Our channel on YouTube has been deleted due to “spam and deceptive policies”

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Post by MichaelZuo »

scotty79 wrote: post #110
MichaelZuo wrote: post #109

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How does this matter? The prior comment wasn’t posted randomly in some arbitrary location. It was in response to a specific comment in a specific location.

And I was refering to specific phrase of it. Namely: > but it's always hard to share the outrage in this situation

Okay… so how does it matter in relation to the prior two comments?

Re: Our channel on YouTube has been deleted due to “spam and deceptive policies”

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Post by scotty79 »

MichaelZuo wrote: post #112
scotty79 wrote: post #110

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And I was refering to specific phrase of it. Namely: > but it's always hard to share the outrage in this situation

Okay… so how does it matter in relation to the prior two comments?

At this point I have no idea, so have a nice day. ;-)

Re: Our channel on YouTube has been deleted due to “spam and deceptive policies”

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Post by DrillShopper »

scotty79 wrote: post #103
DrillShopper wrote: post #100

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Current YouTube practice is equivalent to locking up a citizen for "thievery" and "reasons" without providing any evidence of such at any point. No, it's not even that remotely, and to equate the two shows massive ignorance. This is like a book publisher of its own accord (without the government forcing them to) deciding that they do not want to publish your book anymore. Unless you have an explicit and enforceable…

Show me a book publisher comparable to YouTube. Quantity is quality. YouTube is more akin to a small country than a book publisher.

YouTube is also not locking you in a cell and physically depriving you of your freedom as opposed to the original analogy.

There's no book publisher as big as YouTube/Google but that doesn't break the analogy, and there are plenty of other places you can host video online.

Re: Our channel on YouTube has been deleted due to “spam and deceptive policies”

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Post by phtrivier »

scotty79 wrote: post #86
phtrivier wrote: post #44

Might be moot, but the shutdown email mentions "spam, scam or deceptive practices", not just "reasons". Without any context about the owner of the channel, the reader has no way to know how unfair the shutdown is. I understand from the HN thread that the dev is well known and that the shutdown seems unfair - but it's always hard to share the outrage in this situation. Best of luck to the channel's owner - let's hope…

> but it's always hard to share the outrage in this situation I'm not really sure what makes raging about this so hard for you. Current YouTube practice is equivalent to locking up a citizen for "thievery" and "reasons" without providing any evidence of such at any point. And sure, few hundreds years ago this course of action would fly. But today we advanced a bit and demand that our justice is a bit more just. I don…

> but it's always hard to share the outrage in this situation

Clarification needed indeed: i did not meant "hard to share" because I don't feel empathy for the creator ; I meant "hard" in the sense that:

* I did not know beforehand anything about the creator,

* Neither the post, nor, surprisingly, the HN thread, gave much context about what the creator where accused of

* But the thread was full of outrage ; that I was, unfortunately, not entirely comfortable sharing.

But again, moot point - I completely agree that youtube automated moderation is a living advertisement for human moderation.

Re: Our channel on YouTube has been deleted due to “spam and deceptive policies”

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Post by phtrivier »

squigz wrote: post #77
phtrivier wrote: post #44

Might be moot, but the shutdown email mentions "spam, scam or deceptive practices", not just "reasons". Without any context about the owner of the channel, the reader has no way to know how unfair the shutdown is. I understand from the HN thread that the dev is well known and that the shutdown seems unfair - but it's always hard to share the outrage in this situation. Best of luck to the channel's owner - let's hope…

This is a pretty good comment, except I'm not really sure what point you're trying to make with the last line.

I wanted to highlight the irony of youtube closing a channel for "scams", given that about half of the few ads I still see in youtube are for crypto scams, fad diets, fake cancer medecines, etc...

Thank FSM for ad blockers and nebula.

Re: Our channel on YouTube has been deleted due to “spam and deceptive policies”

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Post by scotty79 »

DrillShopper wrote: post #114
scotty79 wrote: post #103

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Show me a book publisher comparable to YouTube. Quantity is quality. YouTube is more akin to a small country than a book publisher.

YouTube is also not locking you in a cell and physically depriving you of your freedom as opposed to the original analogy. There's no book publisher as big as YouTube/Google but that doesn't break the analogy, and there are plenty of other places you can host video online.

Maybe locking up is wrong analogy. Rather YouTube is just torching everything you've built instead.

> There's no book publisher as big as YouTube/Google

There's nothing as big as YouTube/Google and that's why analogy breaks.

Your analogy with publishers works only if there's relevant competition and there's none. YouTube is analogue to state publisher and others are underground small printers who's main occupation is printing opposition leaflets. There's no competition between YouTube and those entities.

Re: Our channel on YouTube has been deleted due to “spam and deceptive policies”

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Post by S_A_P »

andsoitis wrote: post #69
S_A_P wrote: post #13

My channel suffered the same fate. I had a few original songs on it and a few original videos on it. Never got a warning or copyright strike or any sort of notice. Just boom shut down.

Affer the shut down on YouTube, did you post them elsewhere? That way, people can still watch it.

I lost 1-2 videos due to a lost hard drive, but I have not found alternative video hosting. Any that you recommend?
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