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OS X Mountain Lion available on the Mac App Store

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Re: OS X Mountain Lion available on the Mac App Store

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Post by blakesmith »

aubergene wrote: post #111
blakesmith wrote: post #110

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ugh, sorry to hear that. I can imagine the new interface designs being pretty annoying for Mac Pro users. I have also thought about making the jump back to Linux, but really enjoy the sturdy unibody build quality of macs. I'm also less inclined to fiddle with OS customization and tweaking than I used to be in college, which I did a lot of when I was in Linux land.

Why not put Linux on your mac?

Hardware support/ease of setup mostly. I ran Ubuntu on my iBook PPC circa 2005 or so, and it wasn't a great experience. Has hardware support for the modern mac lines gotten better in recent years?

Re: OS X Mountain Lion available on the Mac App Store

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Post by saturdaysaint »

davej wrote: post #55

I still can't believe the 'skeuomorphic' interfaces for Calendar and Reminders made it into the final version of Mountain Lion. These apps are often in the corner of the screen while working with different applications; they should be minimal and not full of harsh textures and deep bevels. Also, they're just plain ugly. Here's a screenshot for those not familiar: http://f.cl.ly/items/3R0I3X2Y041b091l0j1w/Screen%20Sho…

I'm not a huge fan of brown leather, but Calendar's textures work together to draw my attention to the most relevant parts of the screen in a way that is almost entirely missing in Google Calendar, to pick on a prominent competitor.

The leather is mildly ugly if I focus on it (never), but Google Calendar's harsh asymmetry, nonsensical color scheme (cartoonishly highlighting two buttons - "SEARCH" and "CREATE" - I never use), and inability to hide numerous unused elements bother me every second I have the tab open.

I don't understand the value of these discussions about design that start and end with how skeutomorphic an application is. It's one of dozens of design elements, and it's disappointingly rare to find a well reasoned argument (not "I dunno, Windows 8 just feels cooler now") why skeutomorphism is categorically bad design.

Re: OS X Mountain Lion available on the Mac App Store

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Post by uxp »

rsneekes wrote: post #56
spartango wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, but if you use Trim Enabler( http://www.groths.org/?page_id=322 ) 'command line hack' turns into simple slide to enable.

After I used that on Mountain Lion (GM) and a Crucial M4, my MBP often froze during boot. Disabled TRIM again with Trim enabled and booting problem was solved.

An older version of TRIM Enabler did that same thing to be with a Crucial M4. Updating it to the latest version (as of 3 weeks ago) and trying again solved that problem.

Re: OS X Mountain Lion available on the Mac App Store

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Post by bas »

cicloid wrote: post #102
injekt wrote: post #100

Looks like I've lost all the command line tools. Trying to install them via Xcode 4.4 results in telling me I don't have the appropriate permissions to download them (I have an Apple Developer account but I'm not signed up to any programs). This of course breaks homebrew installs (I found the issue when trying to run an application that uses image magick). Anyone else having this issue?

The last time (last rc) I solved it by downloading only the command line tools from dev center.

Same problem. Downloading from the dev center works.

Re: OS X Mountain Lion available on the Mac App Store

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Post by glhaynes »

hyperbovine wrote: post #106
hnriot wrote: post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Actually everyone needs to stay analyzing, that's how we make progress. The steam engine's fine, everyone needs to stop over analyzing.

Did you really just compare the industrial revolution to the texture of a calendar app menu bar?

No, the original poster made an analogy. There's no equivalence being drawn nor value-comparison being made and it's very frustrating how often legitimate analogies are made and the conversation gets bogged down in "you said those are basically the same you must be crazy!" when no such thing happened.

Re: OS X Mountain Lion available on the Mac App Store

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Post by cmelbye »

super_mario wrote: post #95
blakesmith wrote: post #91

Why do I get the feeling that Apple wants to turn my laptop into a big ipad with a keyboard? Facebook sharing, Twitter integration... These features make sense for users like my Mom, but I couldn't care less. Are there any compelling features for developers? Why should I hassle with upgrading, especially after a lot of the stability issues people had when upgrading to Lion? I want to keep being productive, not turn m…

Imagine how Mac Pro users like me feel. Now my Mac Pro feels like a phone. Yippie. I'm staying on Snow Leopard for as long as the hardware works. When it fails, it's time to move on. Linux is looking prettier every day. I don't know what the hardware choices are going to be in 5 years though. If Apple has their way, general computing will go away by the end of the decade.

Is Apple forcing you to use Reminders, Notes, Messages, etc? I don't quite follow how your Mac Pro suddenly feels like a phone now.

Re: OS X Mountain Lion available on the Mac App Store

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Post by Aloisius »

saturdaysaint wrote: post #123
davej wrote: post #55

I still can't believe the 'skeuomorphic' interfaces for Calendar and Reminders made it into the final version of Mountain Lion. These apps are often in the corner of the screen while working with different applications; they should be minimal and not full of harsh textures and deep bevels. Also, they're just plain ugly. Here's a screenshot for those not familiar: http://f.cl.ly/items/3R0I3X2Y041b091l0j1w/Screen%20Sho…

I'm not a huge fan of brown leather, but Calendar's textures work together to draw my attention to the most relevant parts of the screen in a way that is almost entirely missing in Google Calendar, to pick on a prominent competitor. The leather is mildly ugly if I focus on it (never), but Google Calendar's harsh asymmetry, nonsensical color scheme (cartoonishly highlighting two buttons - "SEARCH" and "CREATE" - I nev…

The torn paper at the top of the Calendar app is torture to anyone with the slightest hint of OCD. I just need to tear off the bits that were left behind and I can't!

Re: OS X Mountain Lion available on the Mac App Store

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Post by rbanffy »

eropple wrote: post #117
jhaglund wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Supports only 64 bit CPUs.

Supports only 64-bit CPUs and EFI of a flavor that (while I don't remember the technical details) rules out some early 64-bit Macs.

So, Hacintosh. Any good reason for this limitation?
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