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Re: Bluesky now has 30 million users

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Post by bloopernova »

rvz wrote: post #98
upofadown wrote: post #60

Bluesky is less attractive right now to Canadians who are participating in the boycott of US products. So Mastodon seems a better fit. There is even a collector page for Canadian Mastodon servers: * https://mastodonserver.ca/

> Bluesky is less attractive right now to Canadians who are participating in the boycott of US products. How many people are boycotting these US products which specifically includes not using iPhones, Macs, Android and Windows devices? Out of that, how many are going to bother to choose to sign up to a Mastodon instance that is only hosted in Canada and use it for more than a year? My guess is a very small number of…

Your comment appears to say "if you're not guaranteed a perfect, immediate, and lasting victory, then just don't bother."

This just reads as divisive, dismissive, or destructive.

Please note I'm not saying that you are those things, just that your comment reads like that.

Re: Bluesky now has 30 million users

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Post by kubav027 »

torben-friis wrote: post #100

Has anyone managed to get a "functioning" tech discussion feed on bluesky? I tried not long ago, mostly help me get acquaintanced with the ruby ecosystem and news, but even using starter packs and the like the best I got was following devs that mostly talked about non tech stuff (personal life, politics and the like). Particularly annoying was the constant "we hate twitter" posts (I know, I'm here now, so why are we…

My experience was the same but I wanted to get rust news. In my opinion social networks are failed concept because they want you to have one account for everything. They should encourage people to have multiple accounts for different audience. It is normal to talk about different things with friends, colleagues, family etc.

Re: Bluesky now has 30 million users

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Post by oneeyedpigeon »

gwervc wrote: post #90
oneeyedpigeon wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The fundamental difference is that X is focussed on its "For You" feed while Bluesky focusses on "Following". They are similar tools, but the different approach means one is far closer to "self-promotion and PR" than the other, and I don't think it's inevitable that Bluesky will descend to X's depths.

The fundamental difference is in the public: extreme-left for bluesky, trumpist for truth social and twitter for whoever isn't making a platform choice part of its identity.

I haven't seen anything remotely "extreme-left" on bluesky. I have seen swathes of racist, objectionable, far-right nonsense on X, though.

Re: Bluesky now has 30 million users

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Post by JKCalhoun »

speedgoose wrote: post #7
homebrewer wrote: post #3

You would think people would learn from their mistakes and not move onto another centralized platform backed by VC money, but here we are.

People don’t really care about decentralisation. Bluesky arrived at the right time, unlike Mastodon.

Also, onboarding.

Mastodon needs to be more streamlined.

Re: Bluesky now has 30 million users

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Post by flakeoil »

upofadown wrote: post #60

Bluesky is less attractive right now to Canadians who are participating in the boycott of US products. So Mastodon seems a better fit. There is even a collector page for Canadian Mastodon servers: * https://mastodonserver.ca/

If you want to boycott the US, I would say it's better to use Bluesky and make it a strong and viable competitor to X.

Re: Bluesky now has 30 million users

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Post by lkrubner »

homebrewer wrote: post #3

You would think people would learn from their mistakes and not move onto another centralized platform backed by VC money, but here we are.

If people cared about decentralization then we would not have seen the consolidation that we've seen. That's true even for technologies who pitch decentralization as a core feature, as we saw with cryptocurrencies -- the original argument was that cryptocurrencies allowed a decentralization of finance, but then we saw a handful of platforms centralize the trades, and most people who bought cryptocurrencies were pleased to have this convenience.

From moxie.org:

"Given the history of why web1 became web2, what seems strange to me about web3 is that technologies like ethereum have been built with many of the same implicit trappings as web1. To make these technologies usable, the space is consolidating around… platforms. Again. People who will run servers for you, and iterate on the new functionality that emerges. Infura, OpenSea, Coinbase, Etherscan."

They also make this point:

"I think this is very similar to the situation with email. I can run my own mail server, but it doesn’t functionally matter for privacy, censorship resistance, or control – because GMail is going to be on the other end of every email that I send or receive anyway."

For a variety of reasons, people have not felt that it is worthwhile to fight for decentralization.

Re: Bluesky now has 30 million users

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Post by zimpenfish »

donohoe wrote: post #53
Pufferbo wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This seems to be left out of the conversation when comparing Bluesky with the wider fediverse. The AT protocol relies on a bespoke setup and is complicated to implement. ActivityPub is comparatively simple, and can be implemented on pretty every thing with just a few endpoints.

If ActivityPub is “simple” then that’s a recent’ish development. It used to be a mess. I would imagine AT gets easier to use/setup given time too.

You can do a basic[0] AP server in a single small (64k) PHP file[1].

[0] Single user, admittedly, but if we're talking about protocol simplicity, that's the nub.

[1] https://shkspr.mobi/blog/2024/02/activitypub-server-in-a-sin...

Re: Bluesky now has 30 million users

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Post by upofadown »

nspattak wrote: post #13

half the comments so far talk about bluesky being similar to x ie private companies. However AFAIK the use of the "AT protocol" seems to me to be a major difference https://bsky.social/about/faq . I am really curious to know how I am wrong in that. As a long time X user and now on bluesky i can tell that there is a huge difference in the content which makes it clear that the platform was pushing accounts with specifi…

Just creating a protocol specification does not create a standard. You need politics for that...
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