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AI systems with 'unacceptable risk' are now banned in the EU

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Re: AI systems with 'unacceptable risk' are now banned in the EU

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Post by joshstrange »

user432678 wrote: post #10
adityamwagh wrote: post #3

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I actually like it, moving to EU is currently my back-up plan when “great advances in AI” renders the rest of the world to make people loose jobs, give up privacy and overall make dystopian future a present. I’ll be happily coding my boilerplate code by hand, enjoying my boring life without AI.

The idea of the EU wouldn’t just follow suit seems kind of laughable. Or rather that the EU would be some bastion of safety from AI. If these “great advances in AI” happen then EU companies will just outsource their jobs, there will be no boilerplate/CRUD jobs.

Re: AI systems with 'unacceptable risk' are now banned in the EU

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Post by IMTDb »

dijksterhuis wrote: post #6
adityamwagh wrote: post #3

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> unacceptable risk applications — the focus of this month’s compliance requirements — will be prohibited entirely. Some of the unacceptable activities include: … what follows is a list of some pretty nasty and insidious use cases. it’s not “AI is completely banned”, it’s “consider the use cases you are working on responsibly”. only for those specific use cases, mind you. for all other use cases not in the list, whic…

> AI that tries to infer people’s emotions at work or school.

When I talk to ChatGPT advanced voice mode with a happy and upbeat tone, it replies similarly. If I talk to it in a lot neutral way it does adapt. The AI thus infers my emotions. I use ChatGPT at work, my company pays for it.

Sounds like I should sue.

Also, I am trying to implement a new policy for pull request in my tech team. We send an anonymous form to gather feedback. I sent all the responses in one block to ChatGPT and asked it to summarize the feedback. The AI indicated that “generally people seem pretty happy about the new policy”. Should I go to jail now for being clearly a deranged madmen according to the EU ?

Re: AI systems with 'unacceptable risk' are now banned in the EU

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Post by dijksterhuis »

IMTDb wrote: post #12
dijksterhuis wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> unacceptable risk applications — the focus of this month’s compliance requirements — will be prohibited entirely. Some of the unacceptable activities include: … what follows is a list of some pretty nasty and insidious use cases. it’s not “AI is completely banned”, it’s “consider the use cases you are working on responsibly”. only for those specific use cases, mind you. for all other use cases not in the list, whic…

> AI that tries to infer people’s emotions at work or school. When I talk to ChatGPT advanced voice mode with a happy and upbeat tone, it replies similarly. If I talk to it in a lot neutral way it does adapt. The AI thus infers my emotions. I use ChatGPT at work, my company pays for it. Sounds like I should sue. Also, I am trying to implement a new policy for pull request in my tech team. We send an anonymous form to…

from the actual act, which is linked in the article

> the placing on the market, the putting into service for this specific purpose, or the use of AI systems to infer emotions of a natural person in the areas of workplace and education institutions

emphasis mine.

chatgpt was not specifically put into service to monitor your emotions at work.

so it’s fine i’d say. and your pull request thing is fine.

also, you’re not trying to infer the emotions of any specific natural person. you’re trying to guage satisfaction of a process. that’s different to working out whether someone is feeling sad or feeling lonely in the workplace because they “aren’t smiling enough”.

unfortunately that’s means you can’t sue and get a pay day.

edit — i find it kind of funny that people are knee jerk reacting emotionally to this. kind of ironic when you consider the example at hand.

Re: AI systems with 'unacceptable risk' are now banned in the EU

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Post by micromacrofoot »

Bancakes wrote: post #15
mdhb wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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Remind me of the European Silicon Valley and its greatest accomplishments?

the US currently has a tech oligarch employing teenagers to audit government finance software

Re: AI systems with 'unacceptable risk' are now banned in the EU

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Post by ItsBob »

> AI that attempts to predict people committing crimes based on their appearance.

FTFY: AI that attempts to predict people committing crimes.

By "appearance" are they talking about a guy wearing a hoodie must be a hacker or are we talking about race/colour/religious garb etc?

I'd rather they just didn't use it for any kind of criminal application at all if I have a say in it!

Just my $0.02

Re: AI systems with 'unacceptable risk' are now banned in the EU

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Post by troupo »

_heimdall wrote: post #5

What I don't see here is how the EU is actually defining what is and is not considered AI. > AI that manipulates a person’s decisions subliminally or deceptively. That can be a hugely broad category that covers any algorithmic feed or advertising platform. Or is this limited specifically to LLMs, as OpenAI has so successfully convinced us that LLMs really are Aai and previous ML tools weren't?

> What I don't see here is how the EU is actually defining what is and is not considered AI.

Because instead of reading the source, you're reading a sensationalist article.

> That can be a hugely broad category that covers any algorithmic feed or advertising platform.

Again, read the EU AI Act. It's not like it's hidden, or hasn't been available for several years already.

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We're going to get a repeat of GDPR aren't we? Where 8 years in people arguing about it have never read anything beyond twitter hot takes and sensationalist articles?

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