Always run and advertise your own website. There is no protection against deletion from social media for whatever reason they are going to come up with.
Our channel on YouTube has been deleted due to “spam and deceptive policies”
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Re: Our channel on YouTube has been deleted due to “spam and deceptive policies”
#42This keeps happening, and it can end someone's company, and livelihoods.
Can people sue, and seek punitive damages large enough to be punitive to a trillion-dollar company?
Re: Our channel on YouTube has been deleted due to “spam and deceptive policies”
#43YouTube is still a big platform, but I notice that they've lost their monopoly on hosting and distributing long-form video as of ~a few years ago. IMO the way to look at it now is that all the major social media platforms are video platforms. X, insta, TikTok, etc. all allow posting long videos directly to the platform.
Youtube still has the monopoly for "outside users". Most other platforms force you to create an account to view the video, even the ones that historically didn't (ahem, twitter). Imagine you sold a product for general popularion, and wanted to publish a tutorial video somewhere online... except for self-hosting it, youtube is the only viable option, sadly.
TikTok doesn't require an account to view videos.
Re: Our channel on YouTube has been deleted due to “spam and deceptive policies”
#44Might be moot, but the shutdown email mentions "spam, scam or deceptive practices", not just "reasons".
Without any context about the owner of the channel, the reader has no way to know how unfair the shutdown is.
I understand from the HN thread that the dev is well known and that the shutdown seems unfair - but it's always hard to share the outrage in this situation.
Best of luck to the channel's owner - let's hope the appeal ends up in front of a human being.
Now, let's all go back on youtube, to watch suggested videos about fake news interspersed with ads for crypto scam.
Re: Our channel on YouTube has been deleted due to “spam and deceptive policies”
#45Same happened to an app that I published on Play Store, I don't even care that much, I only feel bad for the people that bought the premium version of it. Overall the takeway is that your product is never safe and you shouldn't only rely on these big platforms for marketing/distribution.
It bothers me a lot the ideological hatred for regulations commonly found on HN. This is exactly a showcase why regulations for digital markets/marketplaces need to exist. We simply cannot trust huge platforms to care about the small to medium developers, people who are essentially powerless against a behemoth like Google or Apple. You get your app taken down, your account locked and the only recourse left would be s…
Right now you're correct that the only form of recourse users have is to sue the companies, but you're not entirely correct that it takes spending six figures.
You can sue them in San Mateo county and have the case adjudicated in a court which does not allow lawyers for either side and which has the power to compel a Google or a Facebook to reverse an erroneous moderation decision.
https://www.engadget.com/how-small-claims-court-became-metas...
Re: Our channel on YouTube has been deleted due to “spam and deceptive policies”
#46Earlier quoted context omitted.
Youtube still has the monopoly for "outside users". Most other platforms force you to create an account to view the video, even the ones that historically didn't (ahem, twitter). Imagine you sold a product for general popularion, and wanted to publish a tutorial video somewhere online... except for self-hosting it, youtube is the only viable option, sadly.
TikTok doesn't require an account to view videos.
There is tremendous friction on mobile for watching TikTok videos without an account. I do not have a TikTok account and have had videos just not work without signing up. Not sure if they have been AB testing this or something because once in a while the video does work.
Re: Our channel on YouTube has been deleted due to “spam and deceptive policies”
#47a computer can never be held accountable — therefore a computer must never make a management decision
People who sign-off on the programs to do the task can be held accountable, they just aren't. It's not about computers, it's about the legal system.
Re: Our channel on YouTube has been deleted due to “spam and deceptive policies”
#48"These days it feels like the only way you get resolution to this automated bullshit is to post on some social media platform or other."
Just leave for another platform, especially if you're making content people would actively seek out. Who even watches Youtube at this point?
Re: Our channel on YouTube has been deleted due to “spam and deceptive policies”
#49Likely was mass reported? fake copyright strikes? account hacked? it is a possible explanation.
Sinevibes makes audio plugins and other stuff for makes synthesizers, so I am not sure what it is about...
Meanwhile, Youtube does not lack of crypto scam channels with millions of subscribers...
Re: Our channel on YouTube has been deleted due to “spam and deceptive policies”
#50Might be moot, but the shutdown email mentions "spam, scam or deceptive practices", not just "reasons". Without any context about the owner of the channel, the reader has no way to know how unfair the shutdown is. I understand from the HN thread that the dev is well known and that the shutdown seems unfair - but it's always hard to share the outrage in this situation. Best of luck to the channel's owner - let's hope…
I've had good luck with Firefox, ublock origin, and sponsorblock. Can't remember the last time I saw an ad, automated or otherwise. There's also an extension that changes your default page to "subscriptions" instead of "home." I do recall using the ad blocker to hide the side panel of video recommendations, too. At least for now, youtube really is a free ride for me.