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Re: Bluesky now has 30 million users

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Post by navigate8310 »

nspattak wrote: post #13

half the comments so far talk about bluesky being similar to x ie private companies. However AFAIK the use of the "AT protocol" seems to me to be a major difference https://bsky.social/about/faq . I am really curious to know how I am wrong in that. As a long time X user and now on bluesky i can tell that there is a huge difference in the content which makes it clear that the platform was pushing accounts with specifi…

AT Proto is heavily developed by BS and BS is itself the major consumer of AT Proto.

Re: Bluesky now has 30 million users

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Post by apichat »

Krssst wrote: post #18
oneeyedpigeon wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And it didn't involve a really confusing question as a barrier to entry.

Bluesky asks about which server to use on registration like mastodon.social does. For me the difference seems to be better marketing for Bluesky which makes people want to deal with the change and somewhat enjoy it rather than see every obstacle as a pain. Bluesky does have some advantages like starter packs (and network effect now that it has so many accounts).

"Bluesky asks about which server to use on registration"

No he doesn't ask, you're wrong.

And there is no single one alternative server where we can register and interact with people on bsky.app

Re: Bluesky now has 30 million users

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Post by Retric »

homebrewer wrote: post #3

You would think people would learn from their mistakes and not move onto another centralized platform backed by VC money, but here we are.

We already have a wildly successful open protocol for communication, email. People also want the advantages of centralization.

Re: Bluesky now has 30 million users

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Post by jovial_cavalier »

nspattak wrote: post #13

half the comments so far talk about bluesky being similar to x ie private companies. However AFAIK the use of the "AT protocol" seems to me to be a major difference https://bsky.social/about/faq . I am really curious to know how I am wrong in that. As a long time X user and now on bluesky i can tell that there is a huge difference in the content which makes it clear that the platform was pushing accounts with specifi…

You cannot run a bluesky instance on your own. The AT protocol isn't really a protocol in the same way that matrix or mastodon is. It's just an API, you know like all platforms used to have?

Re: Bluesky now has 30 million users

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Post by bayindirh »

anonzzzies wrote: post #8
homebrewer wrote: post #3

You would think people would learn from their mistakes and not move onto another centralized platform backed by VC money, but here we are.

Just use all of them, don't hold yourself to one system.

With more places, comes more mental load and time waste. I for one use HN, Mastodon, and a single Discord server with some friends. I don't care about the rest.

Re: Bluesky now has 30 million users

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Post by technothrasher »

richrichardsson wrote: post #16
vr46 wrote: post #11

Yet another shitshow-in-waiting. I know Mastodon isn’t as polished but leaving one frying pan to get into another is a lost opportunity. I failed to convince somebody to move to Mastodon recently.

In my experience there's a huge barrier to entry for Mastodon. I've tried finding a server that worthwhile signing up to on 3 past occasions, every time I found one that seemed like a good fit they weren't accepting signups. Bluesky I got in before it was opened up by adding my email to the waitlist. Simple. And now it's even easier because there is no waitlist.

I'm honestly not much of a social network user, but I signed up with universeodon and it seems to work fine as a mastodon server. Most of the people I follow are on different servers anyway, so I didn't worry so much about finding a server that was a "good fit" for me.

Re: Bluesky now has 30 million users

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Post by Pufferbo »

agumonkey wrote: post #23
nspattak wrote: post #13

half the comments so far talk about bluesky being similar to x ie private companies. However AFAIK the use of the "AT protocol" seems to me to be a major difference https://bsky.social/about/faq . I am really curious to know how I am wrong in that. As a long time X user and now on bluesky i can tell that there is a huge difference in the content which makes it clear that the platform was pushing accounts with specifi…

shallow knowledge on my side, but it seems that the AT proto requires some fancy relay node that, as of now, are only hosted by big corps, so no one has a a fully independent bsky instance

This seems to be left out of the conversation when comparing Bluesky with the wider fediverse. The AT protocol relies on a bespoke setup and is complicated to implement. ActivityPub is comparatively simple, and can be implemented on pretty every thing with just a few endpoints.

Re: Bluesky now has 30 million users

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Post by oneeyedpigeon »

mytailorisrich wrote: post #29
homebrewer wrote: post #3

You would think people would learn from their mistakes and not move onto another centralized platform backed by VC money, but here we are.

Twitter/X has shown to be no more than a self-promotion and PR platform as soon as it became popular. Just disposable snippets (pretty much the definition of a 'twit') to drive views. The same will apply to Bluesky. It does not matter whether it is centralized or not, VC money or not, as long as it serves that purpose. In fact a centralized system probably serves this purpose better as it is easier for the users and…

The fundamental difference is that X is focussed on its "For You" feed while Bluesky focusses on "Following". They are similar tools, but the different approach means one is far closer to "self-promotion and PR" than the other, and I don't think it's inevitable that Bluesky will descend to X's depths.
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