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Anthropic: "Applicants should not use AI assistants"

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Re: Anthropic: "Applicants should not use AI assistants"

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This is quite a conundrum. These AI companies thrive on the idea that very soon people will not be replaced by AI, but by people who can effectively use AI to be 10x more productive. If AI turns a normal coder into a 10x dev, then why wouldn't you want to see that during an interview? Especially since cheating this whole interview system has become trivial in the past months. It's not the applicants that are the prob…

Because as someone who’s interviewing, I know you can use AI — anyone can. It likely obscures me from judging the pitfalls, and design and architecture decisions that are required in proper engineering roles. Especially for senior and above applications, I want to make an assessment of how you think about problems, where it gives a chance for the candidate to show their experience, their technical understanding, and their communication skills.

We don’t want to work with AI, we are going to pay the person for the persons time, and we want to employ someone who isn’t switching off half their cognition when a hard problem approaches.

Re: Anthropic: "Applicants should not use AI assistants"

#23
If I want to assess a candidates performance when they can't use AI then I think I'd sit in a room with them and talk to them.

If I ask people not to use AI on a task where using AI is advantageous and undetectable then I'm going to discriminate against honest people.

Re: Anthropic: "Applicants should not use AI assistants"

#24
Not new they had that 5 years ago at least.

Anthropic interview is nebulous. You get a coding interview. Fast paced, little time, 100% pass mark.

Then they chat to you for half an hour to gauge your ethics. Maybe I was too honest :)

I'm really bad at the "essay" subjects vsm the "hard" subjects so at that point I was dumped.

Re: Anthropic: "Applicants should not use AI assistants"

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> please do not use AI assistants during the application process. We want to understand your personal interest in Anthropic without mediation through an AI system, and we also want to evaluate your non-AI-assisted communication skills. There are two backwards things with this: 1) You can't ask people to not use AI when careful, responsible use is undetectable. It just isn't a realistic request. You'll have great repl…

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Re: Anthropic: "Applicants should not use AI assistants"

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post #15

> please do not use AI assistants during the application process. We want to understand your personal interest in Anthropic without mediation through an AI system, and we also want to evaluate your non-AI-assisted communication skills. There are two backwards things with this: 1) You can't ask people to not use AI when careful, responsible use is undetectable. It just isn't a realistic request. You'll have great repl…

> AI made your homework? Guess what, the homework is a proxy for your talent, and it didn't make your talent.

At least in theory that’s not what homework is. Homework should be exercises to allow practicing whatever technique you’re trying to learn, because most people learn best by repeatedly doing a thing rather than reading a few chapters of a book. By applying an LLM to the problem you’re just practicing how to use an LLM, which may be useful in its own right, but will turn you into a one trick pony who’s left unable to do anything they can’t use an LLM for.

Re: Anthropic: "Applicants should not use AI assistants"

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post #22

This is quite a conundrum. These AI companies thrive on the idea that very soon people will not be replaced by AI, but by people who can effectively use AI to be 10x more productive. If AI turns a normal coder into a 10x dev, then why wouldn't you want to see that during an interview? Especially since cheating this whole interview system has become trivial in the past months. It's not the applicants that are the prob…

Because as someone who’s interviewing, I know you can use AI — anyone can. It likely obscures me from judging the pitfalls, and design and architecture decisions that are required in proper engineering roles. Especially for senior and above applications, I want to make an assessment of how you think about problems, where it gives a chance for the candidate to show their experience, their technical understanding, and…

Then they shouldn't use libraries, open source code or even existing compilers. They shouldn't search online (man pages is OK). They should use git plumbing commands and sh (not bash of zsh). They should not have potable water in there house but distill river water.
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