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Re: Introducing deep research

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TechDebtDevin wrote: post #212
starchild3001 wrote: post #126

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not really accurate. The "Search" functionality you're describing in DeepSeek is comparable to OpenAI's existing "Search GPT." OpenAI's recent announcement refers to a more advanced capability, similar to Gemini's existing "deep research" feature. DeepSeek's current offerings are significantly more limited in scope.

Are you unaware that there is a "Deepthink (R1)" button right next to the "Search" button on DeepSeek's Chat app. Its been there for some time, even before all the hype regarding R1.

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Re: Introducing deep research

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Post by starchild3001 »

TechDebtDevin wrote: post #212
starchild3001 wrote: post #126

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not really accurate. The "Search" functionality you're describing in DeepSeek is comparable to OpenAI's existing "Search GPT." OpenAI's recent announcement refers to a more advanced capability, similar to Gemini's existing "deep research" feature. DeepSeek's current offerings are significantly more limited in scope.

Are you unaware that there is a "Deepthink (R1)" button right next to the "Search" button on DeepSeek's Chat app. Its been there for some time, even before all the hype regarding R1.

I'm well aware of that. That is not what openai calls "deep research".

Re: Introducing deep research

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Post by lolpanda »

"synthesize large amounts of online information" does it heavily depend on the search engine performance and relevance of the search results? I don't see any mention of Google or Bing. Is this using their internal search engine then?

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bitshiftfaced wrote: post #215
DigitalSea wrote: post #15

Not sure if people picked up on it, but this is being powered by the unreleased o3 model. Which might explain why it leaps ahead in benchmarks considerably and aligns with the claims o3 is too expensive to release publicly. Seems to be quite an impressive model and the leading out of Google, DeepSeek and Perplexity.

> but this is being powered by the unreleased o3 model What makes you believe that?

they explicitly stated it in the launch

Re: Introducing deep research

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Post by _bin_ »

hi_hi wrote: post #56

This is terrifying. Even though they acknowledge the issues with hallucinations/errors, that is going to be completely overlooked by everyone using this, and then injecting the outputs into their own powerpoints. Management Consulting was bad enough before the ability to mass produce these graphs and stats on a whim. At least there was some understanding behind the scenes of where the numbers came from, and sources w…

let's be real for a sec, i've done consulting and have a lot of friends who still do. three times in four, your mckinsey report isn't super well-founded in reality and involves a lot of guesstimation.

Re: Introducing deep research

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Post by samplatt »

nycdatasci wrote: post #217

Pro user. No access like everyone else. OpenAI is very much in an existential crisis and their poor execution is not helping their cause. Operator or “deep research” should be able to assume the role of a Pro user, run a quick test, and reliably report on whether this is working before the press release right?

That's the third time in this thread you've stated "OpenAI is in an existential crisis". It looks very suspicious.

Re: Introducing deep research

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Post by _bin_ »

andyg_blog wrote: post #121
tmnvdb wrote: post #97

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is a hard question for language models since it targets one of their known weaknesses.

Greek mythology? But seriously please elaborate for my less educated self.

it tests syllogistic reasoning: Jason's mother was Tyro, whose father was Poesidon, whose father was Kronos. it also tests whether it "eagerly" rather than comprehensively considers something: a maternal great-grandfather could be the father of either one's maternal grandmother or maternal grandfather. so the answer could also be king Aeolus of the Etruscans.

ideally a model would be able to answer this accurately and completely.

Re: Introducing deep research

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Post by _bin_ »

fosterfriends wrote: post #165
cye131 wrote: post #55

Does anyone actually have access to this? It says available for pro users on the website today - I have pro via my employer but see no "deep research" option in the message composer.

I have pro, in US, not seeing yet

what about a full refresh of the page or perhaps jump into the dev tools and check "disable cache"

could also be aggressive caching from cloudflare. could be they're just trying to announce more stuff to maintain cachet and can't yet support all users forking over 200/month.

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