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Re: Introducing deep research

#51

This smells like when Google released Gemini to have a product in the space.

Eh, not really. Google failed to launch first out of internal political dysfunction and then made a crash effort to launch something to counter the first ChatGPT release.

I highly doubt that the concerns of internal political commissars were holding up this particular openai release.

Re: Introducing deep research

#53

Not sure if people picked up on it, but this is being powered by the unreleased o3 model. Which might explain why it leaps ahead in benchmarks considerably and aligns with the claims o3 is too expensive to release publicly. Seems to be quite an impressive model and the leading out of Google, DeepSeek and Perplexity.

It was expensive as they wanted to charge more for it but deepseek has forced their hand

Rightfully so, some models are getting super efficient.

Re: Introducing deep research

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post #24

If I understood the graphs correctly, it only achieves 20% pass rate on their internal tests. So I have to wait 30min and pay a lot of money just to sift through walls of most likely incorrect text? Unless the possibility of hallucinations is negligible, this is just way too much content to review at once. The process probably needs to be a lot more iterative.

26.6% on humanity's last exam is actually impressive.

pass rate really only matters in context of the difficulty of the tasks

Re: Introducing deep research

#55
Does anyone actually have access to this? It says available for pro users on the website today - I have pro via my employer but see no "deep research" option in the message composer.

Re: Introducing deep research

#56
This is terrifying. Even though they acknowledge the issues with hallucinations/errors, that is going to be completely overlooked by everyone using this, and then injecting the outputs into their own powerpoints.

Management Consulting was bad enough before the ability to mass produce these graphs and stats on a whim. At least there was some understanding behind the scenes of where the numbers came from, and sources would/could be provided.

The more powerful these tools become, the more prevelant this effect of seepage will become.

Re: Introducing deep research

#57
post #46

I think we're all reaching AI fatigue. Fewer and fewer people care anymore

Especially this is not a breakthrough justifying a 340B USD valuation, but rather the work that junior developers can do; implement a loop of Bing Searches connected to an LLM.

Peak HN comment

Re: Introducing deep research

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post #42

"will find, analyze, and synthesize hundreds of online sources" Synthesize? Seems like the wrong word -- I think they would want to say something like, "analyze, and synthesize useful outputs from hundreds of online sources"..

On the other hand, accurate if it is prone for hallucination…

Re: Introducing deep research

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post #50
post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Also named specifically to muddle the SEO for the term "deep." Nothing that OpenAI does is unintentional.

I have never believed a conspiracy theory more instantly. Deep Search vs. DeepSeek is way more than enough to confuse the average layman! Especially when you're googling something you heard about at work a few hours ago, or on Bloomberg TV

You might as well say that DeepSeek wanted to cause confusion with DeepMind. Deep isn't such a distinguishing name, deep learning has been a buzzword since 2012.

Re: Introducing deep research

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post #30

Feels like only a matter of time before these crawlers are blocked from large swathes of the internet. I understand that they’re already prohibited from Reddit and YouTube. If that spreads, this approach might be in trouble.

TBF OpenAI in particular bought access to Reddit. Otherwise yeah this is my main confusion with all of these products, Perplexity being the biggest -- how do you get around the status-quo of refusing access to bots? Just to start off with, there is no Google Search API, and they work hard to make sure headless browsers can't access the normal service.

They do say "Currently, deep research can access the open web...", so maybe "open" there implies something significant. Like, "websites that have agreements with OpenAI and/or do not enforce norobot policies".

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