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Re: Why do War Thunder players leak classified information? [video]

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Post by 4ad »

nomius10 wrote: post #3

I remember a time when crossing the 10 minute mark was really stretching it on YouTube. Nowadays most videos hit the 1 hour mark... I'm not sure if this is what the market demands, or this is just Google nudging creators in this direction. Fortunately people still make short videos, like this (relevant) one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0WWbpBxLCI

It's exactly backwards, YouTube favours short videos and frequent uploads. People doing long videos do it purely out of passion.

The claim that most videos nowadays are hitting the one hour mark is trivially false.

Re: Why do War Thunder players leak classified information? [video]

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Post by refulgentis »

Answer: they don't leak classified info, they leak restricted info that's effectively public domain.

Because both sound bad, there's benefits to all involved to do a little bait and switch there.

Notably, reputable publications don't play along.

This sounds disagreeable, but it's the boring truth. Some sourcing:

- "declassified information can still be considered “restricted,” and thus violates the game’s rules, [the game developer] said. In fact, the restricted manuals are available for purchase on legitimate websites."

[via Task and Purpose: https://taskandpurpose.com/news/us-military-sensitive-info-w...] [via Task and Purpose in another PR round: https://taskandpurpose.com/culture/war-thunder-challenger-2-...]

The UK Defence Journal is the worst offender, they're not reputable, but rather a bog-standard republisher that reliably finds a way to publish a headline on this every 6 months.

They cleverly don't assert anything themselves, but rather quote comments that are confused about classification. (i.e. compare to 2nd Task and Purpose link. same incident: https://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/classified-tank-specs-leaked...)

They've also started using AI to write it up for them.

c.f. comments on https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42490191, the latest round of virality

Re: Why do War Thunder players leak classified information? [video]

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Post by vunderba »

nomius10 wrote: post #3

I remember a time when crossing the 10 minute mark was really stretching it on YouTube. Nowadays most videos hit the 1 hour mark... I'm not sure if this is what the market demands, or this is just Google nudging creators in this direction. Fortunately people still make short videos, like this (relevant) one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0WWbpBxLCI

I'm guessing you're either missing or deliberately excluding the HUGE push by Youtube for "Youtube Shorts". Personally, I vastly prefer long (20+ minute) videos. However short videos are good for quick DIY / tutorials when I'm unable to find a written equivalent.

Re: Why do War Thunder players leak classified information? [video]

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Post by Ygg2 »

pengaru wrote: post #19
Ygg2 wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Who? Elon cheats at Path of Exile 2.

[flagged]

Maybe I'm just from a culture that doesn't give much shit about honorifics. Or my tone is mocking.

Disclaimer: I don't know Elon Musk, other than news articles, and geniunely don't care about him one way or the other.

Re: Why do War Thunder players leak classified information? [video]

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Post by DaSHacka »

bowsamic wrote: post #15
mindcrime wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Fortunately people still make short videos Interesting. I don't see anything fortunate about that myself. I guess it's a "different strokes for different folks" thing. Personally, I rarely watch any video that's less than 20 minutes long. I think of short videos as being too small to contain enough useful info to be worth my time (although that's obviously not literally true for all short videos). And generally speak…

In my experience long videos on YouTube are extremely inefficient at conveying information, often repeating themselves in order to pad out the length. This is even the case for the better creators

I've noticed this too, it's becoming somewhat infamous that modern YouTube videos are all these 1+ hour long 'video essays' on topics which could easily be replaced with 2-3 page articles to be read in half the time.

While back in the day a long video essay was usually borne out of necessity and thus information-dense and high-quality—not unlike a documentary, actually—it feels like length itself is an objective for a lot of newer videos.

I suspect many subconsciously think "if my video is 2+ hours long, then clearly it's high-quality and well-researched", regardless of the actual density of information.

And don't even get me started on content creators that use AI-generated sludge because they don't have enough relevant visuals for the runtime of the video. Like dude, just make the video shorter.

Re: Why do War Thunder players leak classified information? [video]

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Post by unsupp0rted »

praptak wrote: post #17
brenainn wrote: post #4

I'll provide some background for people that aren't familiar with the game. It's an online vehicular combat game where you pilot tanks, planes, helicopters and warships. The vehicles range from pre-WW2 to modern. The game aims for realistic vehicle specifications, like armour thickness, penetration values etc. For older, actually real vehicles, that information is more easily available. For modern, classified vehicle…

"Don't ask questions, post some blatantly wrong answers on the internet. You'll have angry PhDs running to explain how you are wrong!"

https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/nerd_sniping.png

Re: Why do War Thunder players leak classified information? [video]

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Post by MourYother »

DaSHacka wrote: post #25
bowsamic wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In my experience long videos on YouTube are extremely inefficient at conveying information, often repeating themselves in order to pad out the length. This is even the case for the better creators

I've noticed this too, it's becoming somewhat infamous that modern YouTube videos are all these 1+ hour long 'video essays' on topics which could easily be replaced with 2-3 page articles to be read in half the time. While back in the day a long video essay was usually borne out of necessity and thus information-dense and high-quality—not unlike a documentary, actually—it feels like length itself is an objective for…

The people who have nothing interesting to say in a long form format were never worth following anyway.

Re: Why do War Thunder players leak classified information? [video]

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Post by csa »

nomius10 wrote: post #3

I remember a time when crossing the 10 minute mark was really stretching it on YouTube. Nowadays most videos hit the 1 hour mark... I'm not sure if this is what the market demands, or this is just Google nudging creators in this direction. Fortunately people still make short videos, like this (relevant) one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0WWbpBxLCI

> Nowadays most videos hit the 1 hour mark... I'm not sure if this is what the market demands

For many genres, this is simply what pays the most for the creators.

Some people just flip on a video and let it play — maybe just in the background, maybe as they fall asleep. The ads that get played when they aren’t paying attention still generate revenue for the creator.

This is one reason why any working streamer should pretty much always have some sort of a long-form channel. It makes bank for relatively little additional effort.

Re: Why do War Thunder players leak classified information? [video]

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Post by rincebrain »

itronitron wrote: post #9
brenainn wrote: post #4

I'll provide some background for people that aren't familiar with the game. It's an online vehicular combat game where you pilot tanks, planes, helicopters and warships. The vehicles range from pre-WW2 to modern. The game aims for realistic vehicle specifications, like armour thickness, penetration values etc. For older, actually real vehicles, that information is more easily available. For modern, classified vehicle…

Sounds like this could inspire a simple test as to whether someone should have access to classified information, which would also positively indicate their more mature than a twelve year old.

At least once, someone has reported online that they were asked if their friend played War Thunder when they were doing an interview to explore their friend's getting a clearance, so...

Re: Why do War Thunder players leak classified information? [video]

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Post by carlosjobim »

DaSHacka wrote: post #25
bowsamic wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In my experience long videos on YouTube are extremely inefficient at conveying information, often repeating themselves in order to pad out the length. This is even the case for the better creators

I've noticed this too, it's becoming somewhat infamous that modern YouTube videos are all these 1+ hour long 'video essays' on topics which could easily be replaced with 2-3 page articles to be read in half the time. While back in the day a long video essay was usually borne out of necessity and thus information-dense and high-quality—not unlike a documentary, actually—it feels like length itself is an objective for…

An independent creator can easily get paid by making a long YouTube video. It is almost impossible to get paid by making long or short web articles.

Inb4 "They shouldn't want to make money and just publish their articles for free"

Inb4 "People should only be creative online as a side hobby when they are comfortably employed"

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