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Spaced repetition can allow for infinite recall (2022)

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Re: Spaced repetition can allow for infinite recall (2022)

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Post by exe34 »

sn9 wrote: post #95
exe34 wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

what does it mean to have learnt a word if you can't recall it?

Understanding versus remembering. You first understand and only afterwards encode your understanding in cards. It's in reviewing the cards that you put the understanding into your long-term memory (or possibly reveal gaps in your knowledge, in which case you revise your understanding).

Swedish: Vad har det med saken att göra?

direct translation: what has this with the matter to do?

meaning: what does this have to do with it?

Where does understanding come in? I can imagine what understanding mean for mathematics, science, etc. but for language, I'm having difficulty figuring it out.

Re: Spaced repetition can allow for infinite recall (2022)

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Post by csdvrx »

runarberg wrote: post #70

I wrote a kanji learning app around Anki’s Flexable Spaced Repetition (FSRS) algorithm https://shodoku.app My design principal is that I don’t need to be limited to few words, a sentence, and maybe a picture for each flash card. Instead each flashcard can be the all the relevant parts of the whole dictionary related to the kanji that you are learning. Another design principal (where I deviate from Wankikani) is that…

> I still have a couple of features missing before I can call it done enough.

I've checked your website and HN profile but there's no email to contact you, so here are some simple suggestions: when you enter a deck, I would suggest you add 2 shortcuts or buttons: one to randomly jump from the present card to another one of the same deck, and the other to randomly jump to another deck in the review set

This is because when faced with a sequence, the brain learns the order the element in the set, which may affect recall.

Being able to randomize the set helps prevent that, and give better results.

Re: Spaced repetition can allow for infinite recall (2022)

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Post by gavmor »

yamrzou wrote: post #22

Besides LineByLine ( https://linebyline.app ), does anyone have tips on memorizing long texts using spaced repetition?

I've gotten tremendous mileage out of exporting book highlights to BufferApp.com and setting them to release only once per day or so. Shuffled, they pop up days, weeks, months after I've put down the book, re-igniting its themes as they spark discussion.

Re: Spaced repetition can allow for infinite recall (2022)

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Post by runarberg »

csdvrx wrote: post #102
runarberg wrote: post #70

I wrote a kanji learning app around Anki’s Flexable Spaced Repetition (FSRS) algorithm https://shodoku.app My design principal is that I don’t need to be limited to few words, a sentence, and maybe a picture for each flash card. Instead each flashcard can be the all the relevant parts of the whole dictionary related to the kanji that you are learning. Another design principal (where I deviate from Wankikani) is that…

> I still have a couple of features missing before I can call it done enough. I've checked your website and HN profile but there's no email to contact you, so here are some simple suggestions: when you enter a deck, I would suggest you add 2 shortcuts or buttons: one to randomly jump from the present card to another one of the same deck, and the other to randomly jump to another deck in the review set This is because…

Thanks for the suggestion. The code is open sourced at https://github.com/runarberg/shodoku

I think you were browsing the cards and using the quick navigation to go to another card in the same deck. When you actually review the cards using the SRS system to review the cards (the big “Review” button), there is a setting (in the settings view) to enable fuzz (a small random delay; defaults to on) which will effectively scramble the cards for your next review. I actually had been using it for a couple of months without fuzz and just random noise in my retention abilities were enough to scramble the decks, at least in my experience.

But a button in the quick navigation bar when browsing the cards to jump to a random card is not a bad idea.

Re: Spaced repetition can allow for infinite recall (2022)

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Post by iyn »

epsilon-delta wrote: post #99
triyambakam wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wow, never heard of SuperMemo and this Wozniak. What an interesting and awesome rabbit hole

I still remember vividly the day I first heard of SuperMemo and Wozniak, I spent the next ~6 hours reading everything about him and his software. Interesting fact, SuperMemo is written in Pascal.

Yeah, I've been in the same (amazing) rabbit hole, can recommend.

Are there any public sources about SM being written in Pascal? TIL

Re: Spaced repetition can allow for infinite recall (2022)

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Post by IssaRice »

I also made a theoretical calculation like this a couple of years ago [1]. I didn't answer the question "Can you memorize an infinite number of facts?" but rather the question "If you add a constant number of cards to Anki each day, what does your daily review load look like in the limit?"

[1]: https://issarice.com/long-run-anki-review-load

Re: Spaced repetition can allow for infinite recall (2022)

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Post by runarberg »

aerhardt wrote: post #104

Anyone had any experience using spaced repetition for reinforcing math learning?

I tried it ones to reinforce chess openings, but I never developed the momentum to keep it up. I think I was—and still am—lacking the ability to visualize the moves in my head from the algebraic notation on the cards.

Re: Spaced repetition can allow for infinite recall (2022)

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Post by david_allison »

IssaRice wrote: post #107

I also made a theoretical calculation like this a couple of years ago [1]. I didn't answer the question "Can you memorize an infinite number of facts?" but rather the question "If you add a constant number of cards to Anki each day, what does your daily review load look like in the limit?" [1]: https://issarice.com/long-run-anki-review-load

We've recently added a simulator in the deck options of the new scheduler.

If you don't want to upgrade to FSRS

* Export a colpkg

* File -> Switch Profile -> New

* Import

* Deck Options -> Enable FSRS & Optimize

* FSRS Simulator (experimental)

Re: Spaced repetition can allow for infinite recall (2022)

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Post by bluGill »

szundi wrote: post #33
orzig wrote: post #10

I have been wondering about this in the context of being ready for work in the age of LLM‘s. What nobody can deny is that they memorize information at a superhuman level, so it might reduce the value of having done that myself. On the other hand, “couldn’t you just google that“has been an erroneous retort to the value of space repetition for decades, during which I’ve gotten a lot of value out of doing. has been a er…

What you remember becomes part of your thinking and reasoning. So no, why would you google something if it doesn’t come to mind as something relevant.

You can't know it all so choose what is important to know and what you look up.
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