I'm a fan of ratpoison - https://www.nongnu.org/ratpoison/
There's dozens of us!
A mouseless tale: trying for a keyboard-driven desktop
41–50 of 111 posts
Re: A mouseless tale: trying for a keyboard-driven desktop
#42This is one of the things that pisses me off about MacOS. Every other majot OS out there at least offers a good failsafe keyboard navigation built in to each UI component. In a pinch, the keyboard is your friend, at least until your pointing device is back up. MacOS: lol, sorry, bluetooth settings require a pointing device to add a new one. Keyboard navigation? Sure. It worked up until this part, but we didn't bother…
I just tried, and if you hit 'Tab' a couple of times, it will select the 'Connect' button that shows up after the name of the discovered devices.
From time to time I need this to re-pair with my, very old, logitech wireless mouse, that's why I knew it is totally possible with just the keyboard.
Re: A mouseless tale: trying for a keyboard-driven desktop
#43This is one of the things that pisses me off about MacOS. Every other majot OS out there at least offers a good failsafe keyboard navigation built in to each UI component. In a pinch, the keyboard is your friend, at least until your pointing device is back up. MacOS: lol, sorry, bluetooth settings require a pointing device to add a new one. Keyboard navigation? Sure. It worked up until this part, but we didn't bother…
Had to use a Mac at a job last year. It wasn't used much so the mouse wasn't charged. Why oh why is the mouse unusable when it's charging!?
My Bose headphones also aren't usable while charging. Very frustrating. I don't care if there are technical reasons. It's just bad UX.
Re: A mouseless tale: trying for a keyboard-driven desktop
#44I love these papers. I have been on a similar path on macOS. Concerning Vimium, there is the Vimium C version that seems to be a bit faster. On macOS there is a similar software (don’t remember its name) to use a Vimium like feature on your whole desktop.
Vimperator was even better, and allowed a very smooth operation of most Firefox without using the mouse. Sadly, it was killed by the transition to a new plugin API. Vimium and other current options lead to quite some friction, as Firefox disables plugins on many scenarios, such as a new empty page. Hence, you often find yourself in a situation where you have to think whether Vimium is active and you can use Vim-like…
Oh I saw it's name I think but I have never tried it.
Re: A mouseless tale: trying for a keyboard-driven desktop
#45I love these papers. I have been on a similar path on macOS. Concerning Vimium, there is the Vimium C version that seems to be a bit faster. On macOS there is a similar software (don’t remember its name) to use a Vimium like feature on your whole desktop.
You may be thinking of [Homerow]( https://www.homerow.app/ ) for Macos. Its okay for popups that I used to need a mouse for. There's another app that does similar "Vimium for Desktop" but it wasn't as responsive and sometimes focus would get stuck, but I forgot that software's name.
Oh nice, thanks for sharing this. I don't think it was homerow (or it has evolved a lot).
I'll give this one a go to see if this helps me touch less my mouse
Re: A mouseless tale: trying for a keyboard-driven desktop
#46PaperVM is really neat. Much simpler to setup, learn and understand than for example i3.
I have been using i3 for years now. Rock solid, extremely lightweight and very simple to use. Once configured I never found myself looking back at it. Documentation is superb, and didn't take me more than a week to get used to it. Never tried PaperWM, nor other WM as nothing has been simpler nor more effective than i3. Probably dwm but I think is for those that like to have some hands on and tweaking.
Re: A mouseless tale: trying for a keyboard-driven desktop
#47I figured this whole thread would have been about hyprland and nvim, then the sharing of various dotfiles.
Am disappointed.
Re: A mouseless tale: trying for a keyboard-driven desktop
#48On Mac so don’t know when I’ll try this but suggest uhk keyboard for anyone going mouseless
Highly recommend UHK for an initial ergo split setup with a traditional row staggered layout. I put an apple trackpad in between the splits. But now considering getting into column staggered layout splits with integrated trackball/pad like the Sofle
Re: A mouseless tale: trying for a keyboard-driven desktop
#49This is one of the things that pisses me off about MacOS. Every other majot OS out there at least offers a good failsafe keyboard navigation built in to each UI component. In a pinch, the keyboard is your friend, at least until your pointing device is back up. MacOS: lol, sorry, bluetooth settings require a pointing device to add a new one. Keyboard navigation? Sure. It worked up until this part, but we didn't bother…
Did you enable this setting? If yes, can you tell me more what's missing? https://support.apple.com/en-us/guide/mac-help/mchlc06d1059/...
Doesn't this require foresight that your mouse may fail? It isn't enabled by default.
Any other OS, you'll be able to at least tab around without the mouse.
Re: A mouseless tale: trying for a keyboard-driven desktop
#50Surprised to see PaperWM instead something like i3 or dwm as those are at least for me the top tiling window managers. I haven't tried ratpoison but read that is a good choice as well. Perhaps PaperWM was chosen because of it fancier look compared to more minimalistic UI than i3 or dwm?