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Re: Oracle Cloud deleting active user accounts without possibility for data recovery

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I was bit by something like this. Cc expired, then my server was gone, no warning emails, no way to login to ask for support because it said my account did not exist. Trying to register an account with the same email said I was already registered.

I checked my spam too, nothing. I was not a paying customer, so I’m sure they do not miss me, and I understand that their free deal is not good for them long term, but I wish at least they had the courtesy to give me an email explaining why and maybe a day or two to ensure my backups were OK (they were).

Re: Oracle Cloud deleting active user accounts without possibility for data recovery

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> not everyone has a bad experience with them You don’t stay in business for long while burning every single bridge. The standards for acceptable behavior from a supplier / business partner are a little higher than just doesn’t fuck over every single contract.

Broadcom enters the room....

Oracle is holding the door from the inside, smiling widely.

Re: Oracle Cloud deleting active user accounts without possibility for data recovery

#54
Sorry for my bad english its my third language

My experience was quite roller coaster with oracle, i have to mention im a student and wanted to try their free tier so i could learn more about enterprise cloud hosted VM’s and networking, signup was good for me, but when i tried selecting an arm instance it would be always out of capacity, and i mean i was on oracle from around 2022 until 2024 first half maybe?, i checked it multiple times but ARM instances would just never be avilable(i was on zurich servers, i thought about moving my account to another location-tenancy but i found out it isnt possible) so i was stuck with 2 single core epyc systems with just enough ram, it was fine to test stuff but i quickly got a big issue: networking is a mess on oracle, i mean i couldnt count how many jumps i needed to go through to actualy enable other services, it may be skill issue, but why have multiple software based firewalls? Sometimes having one software would be fine like iptables? Anyways, i was pretty fed up with not being able to do much and networking being this bad, then it come in first half 2024 an update that they forced 2FA on my account even tho i didnt wanted any of it, i logged in had to set it up and forgot to disable it back because i Dont want 2fa, i just wanna you let me manage my own security please. A month later i lost access to my phone which had the 2fa app(dont buy chinese phones, they die too early, motherboard died in it and i dont have money to recover from such state), i asked the customer support if theres some way to reset it and get back in well there is just i need to go throught some software which was legal age by now, and navigate it with vague instructions, after 2 days of calling them and trying to do it i gave up

If you still wanna learn working with servers, networking etc. i recommend just getting your own server or choosing some other provider, NAT is not an excuse, cloudlfare tunnel helps you out,

Re: Oracle Cloud deleting active user accounts without possibility for data recovery

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They have an excellent free tier for experimenting with some higher power ARM servers. As long as you're ready to give up when they decide they don't like you any more, that's a pretty cool deal. Just don't ever build anything with their hardware or software that you'd like to keep. Edit: Java is usually pretty good, too. At least the open source stuff. Maybe stuff like GraalVM too but they had that locked down in li…

Yeah, I have a free-tier ARM VM, and it's great as a remote Nix builder for aarch64. If I lost it, I'd just have to do building locally.

When did you manage to get that? I tried signing up for the ARM server several times but it always says it's unavailable at the moment in my region (East - Toronto) and I should try a different region... however you can't switch regions after you set up your account. I talked to their support and they said it's unavailable for the foreseeable future... choose a different configuration.

Are people still able to provision those instances in other regions? If so, which one(s)? I'm just using the legacy free one for now, the 2GHz AMD with 0.5GB RAM.

Re: Oracle Cloud deleting active user accounts without possibility for data recovery

#58
Oracle probably has the best sales team in the industry. No developer ever suggests an oracle product as the tool of choice, yet here they are.

We learned when we switched away from Oracle DB due to performance issues. We were told that we needed to get back on it immediately. Our contract required all tools to use Oracle DB and we had to consult with their rep when making upgrades.

So yeah, it's entirely your fault. You didn't read the contract! /s

Re: Oracle Cloud deleting active user accounts without possibility for data recovery

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They have an excellent free tier for experimenting with some higher power ARM servers. As long as you're ready to give up when they decide they don't like you any more, that's a pretty cool deal. Just don't ever build anything with their hardware or software that you'd like to keep. Edit: Java is usually pretty good, too. At least the open source stuff. Maybe stuff like GraalVM too but they had that locked down in li…

I've been trying to sign up to them for over a year, and it keeps failing. Support tickets remain unanswered.

They don't do support for free tiers, and their free tier is often overbooked, so from what I can tell they just silently drop people? Seems like terrible business to me, but so does most of what Oracle does.

Re: Oracle Cloud deleting active user accounts without possibility for data recovery

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That people continue to use ORACLE products is one of those misteries I can not understand for much thought that I put into it.

Why do people want to pay for Oracle when PostgreSQL and MySQL are free and work well?
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