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Re: Phyllis Fong, who was investigating Neuralink, "forcefully removed "

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Post by Terr_ »

khazhoux wrote: post #79
Terr_ wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A minority spoke clearly. Many of "the people" didn't vote, and Trump got less than 50% of those that did.

Everyone who decided not to vote literally relinquished their voice in the matter. They simply don't count. They were "OK" with whatever others decided. Their opinion has as much weight as my dog's (and I don't even have a dog!).

> The people spoke very clearly [that] they wanted this.

> [Nonvoters] were "OK" with whatever others decided.

Those are not the same thing! Stop contradicting yourself in order to sanewash Trump.

Re: Phyllis Fong, who was investigating Neuralink, "forcefully removed "

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Post by sho_hn »

pbronez wrote: post #106
sho_hn wrote: post #72

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Re: Phyllis Fong, who was investigating Neuralink, "forcefully removed "

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Post by computerthings »

watwut wrote: post #69
Red_Comet_88 wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Americans are desperate. May not be felt among the HN crowd, but standards of living in the US have been declining consistently for a long time [1]. Remember that Trump was not re-elected to a second term initially specifically because he failed to deliver on his promise of "MAGA". He instead did a Jeb Bush presidency, complete with Wall Street (Mnuchin) and the CIA (Pompeo) running the country exactly as would have…

Nah. You cant explain fascism just by them being desperate economically. That is not how it works. They did not had to have Trump to be representant of the republican party again. If they were bothered by economics, they would pick someone else even if they wanted to change parties. They wanted to cause harm for reasons unrelated to economics.

Who is "they"? And yes, you can absolutely explain it with desperation, and arrogance and in-fighting on behalf of the non-fascists.

The issues on the minds of American issues were mostly things like housing, healthcare; economics. Trump at least pretended to be also angry and willing to do something about it, while saying the Democrats were lukewarm would be flattering them.

What is the point of saying "people wanted this"? To legitimize not fighting it? I don't even care what I wanted yesterday, what do I care what someone else wanted last November?

Re: Phyllis Fong, who was investigating Neuralink, "forcefully removed "

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Post by nullocator »

Dalewyn wrote: post #90
kevstev wrote: post #17

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This is my big struggle with all of this. His first term I felt America was duped by a con man so protested and made a fuss on social media. Americans saw the first four years and astonishingly decided they wanted more of it, by a decent margin. So while I absolutely hate what is going on right now this seems to be what the people wanted. I question each day whether that needs to be respected or we should resist. I a…

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Are you arguing Phyllis deserved to be fired because she had a lot of experience and was a dedicated employee? That's a pretty hot take. I hope for your sake you are independently wealthy, lest someone who can impact your life comes along and determines you shouldn't be employed anymore because you've been doing it too long. You think twenty two years is too long to be in a profession, perhaps the next person will think 10 years or 5 years are too long, gotta get someone (anyone) new and different in there, and you out.

Re: Phyllis Fong, who was investigating Neuralink, "forcefully removed "

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Post by anigbrowl »

Terr_ wrote: post #43
llamaimperative wrote: post #2

The specific law that Trump is very obviously breaking is the Securing Inspector General Independence Act of 2022, which says Congress must be notified 30 days in advance and given "substantive" rationale for dismissing inspectors general. This law was passed specifically in response to Trump breaking the antecedent law, Inspector General Reform Act of 2008, during his first term. Will the "party of law and order" do…

I'm tired of congressional Republicans being treated as unmentioned bystanders in this. Reporters should be pushing microphones in their faces asking why they approve of the latest thing Trump did, or at least what they think of him breaking laws they passed.

Reporters are doing that. But politicians in general and Republicans in particular excel at using rhetorical fallacies and other tactics to avoid answering difficult questions. Here's an example from last year where a bunch of Republicans simply booed and abused a reporter whose question they disliked: https://thehill.com/homenews/house/4274345-republican-tells-...

The media has many shortcomings, but how are reporters supposed to hold accountable people who simply do not care?

Re: Phyllis Fong, who was investigating Neuralink, "forcefully removed "

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Post by asdfasvea »

khazhoux wrote: post #75
watwut wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nah. You cant explain fascism just by them being desperate economically. That is not how it works. They did not had to have Trump to be representant of the republican party again. If they were bothered by economics, they would pick someone else even if they wanted to change parties. They wanted to cause harm for reasons unrelated to economics.

You see an electorate that wanted to cause harm. I see an electorate that thought anything is better than a black woman in charge. :-\

Whats race got to do with it? Trumps 2-0 against women regardless of race.

Re: Phyllis Fong, who was investigating Neuralink, "forcefully removed "

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Post by khazhoux »

DFHippie wrote: post #100
akmarinov wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The ones that didn’t vote are ok with what the voters choose, otherwise they would’ve voted

They're okay the way a patient in a coma is okay with whatever the doctor does.

I'm sorry, but how many non-voters were physically unable to vote? My heart goes out to them. But everyone else, who chose to stay home, chose to let others speak for them.

Re: Phyllis Fong, who was investigating Neuralink, "forcefully removed "

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Post by theendisney4 »

mindslight wrote: post #34
callamdelaney wrote: post #20

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Uh what? If I got fired from a private company security would also remove me

This mistaken belief that government works like a corporation is the essence of fascism. Corporations are inherently authoritarian, government should not be. The entire point of bureaucracy is that supreme power should not vest into one person, but rather be divided amongst many people and mediated by a system of rules.

You can have entirely seperate governing entities complete with their own taxes and elections. The most interesting part imho is that people not even bother voting if the entity does its job properly.

Re: Phyllis Fong, who was investigating Neuralink, "forcefully removed "

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Post by roenxi »

khazhoux wrote: post #75
watwut wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nah. You cant explain fascism just by them being desperate economically. That is not how it works. They did not had to have Trump to be representant of the republican party again. If they were bothered by economics, they would pick someone else even if they wanted to change parties. They wanted to cause harm for reasons unrelated to economics.

You see an electorate that wanted to cause harm. I see an electorate that thought anything is better than a black woman in charge. :-\

It rings a bit hollow when the single most popular president in recent history was Obama. If the US can cope with him what is the problem with women supposed to be? Harris was an unusually weak candidate; the primary system is supposed to shake people like that out and the Democrats were left in a disadvantageous place after bypassing it.

One of the reasons Trump is getting all these historic wins is because the US Democrats refuse point blank to do some introspection and ask if their policy positions are effective. Name-calling and shaming tactics turned out to not be good enough to stop Trump, so there is an interesting question of who they could stop and under what circumstances they could be politically successful.

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