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Re: Phyllis Fong, who was investigating Neuralink, "forcefully removed "

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Post by llamaimperative »

codingrightnow wrote: post #60
bmitc wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I also wonder if his supporters have any idea of what is going on. They do not. Most of his supporters are either rich or uneducated normal people who lack the mental capacity to realize what's going on. They just repeat the talking points. Respond to anyone of them with a non-talking point, compassion, and honesty and they just shut down. They haven't a clue about what's really going on. I bet none of his supporte…

I feel like you're interacting with the same people I'm interacting with because your assessment of them is spot on. They love the talking points. Whenever you shut down one talking point with facts they pole vault over that into the next talking point. They want to be 20 ft up in the air away from the truth and never question why they've been lied to. They believe and even make up wild conspiracy theories on the spo…

+1 I spend a lot of time engaging with these folks in good faith as well, and exact same pattern.

Repeat statement from Trump -> demonstrate that it's untrue -> repeat statement from Trump on new topic -> demonstrate that it's untrue -> repeat statement from Trump on new topic -> demonstrate that it's untrue

They're in a cult.

Re: Phyllis Fong, who was investigating Neuralink, "forcefully removed "

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Post by sho_hn »

Are there any good blogs that are chronicling the USA Federal gov's slow descent into facism and overt corruption, just collecting and archiving pieces like this with a classiciation/categorization etc.?

I think it's an unprecedented opportunity to record the history of a downfall using modern tools, and future generations might benefit enormously.

When I learned about the disruption of the Weimar Republic in highschool, a thing our teacher did was make copious use of newspaper clippings to explain the delta between ground truth and public sentiment, and how certain narratives increased in frequency, etc. He had personally spent quite some time in old archives and on microfilm readers to create his little library. Something like this, but with much more data.

A friend of mine did her master's in political science on crawling data in Islamic extremist social media cycles and trying to correlate activity there with a dataset on terrorist events, trying to find out if you could anticipate them somehow.

This is a loose collection of thoughts, but I think there's something there in the signal.

Re: Phyllis Fong, who was investigating Neuralink, "forcefully removed "

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Post by llamaimperative »

watwut wrote: post #49
khazhoux wrote: post #13

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The people spoke very clearly in November: they wanted this.

Can we then openly call republican voters guilty then? Instead of pretending that people voting for that party are good people? I do agree that many wanted the harm and that is why they voted for Trump.

IMO they're morally (and practically) responsible but it is politically unwise to do this.

Re: Phyllis Fong, who was investigating Neuralink, "forcefully removed "

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Post by amazingamazing »

r0ckarong wrote: post #4

Nothing to see here. Just a massive conflict of interest from an unelected foreigner exacting power over your government.

i actually have no clue - but isnt musk a u.s. citizen? it would actually surprise me if he were not.

Re: Phyllis Fong, who was investigating Neuralink, "forcefully removed "

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Post by khazhoux »

watwut wrote: post #69
Red_Comet_88 wrote: post #56

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Americans are desperate. May not be felt among the HN crowd, but standards of living in the US have been declining consistently for a long time [1]. Remember that Trump was not re-elected to a second term initially specifically because he failed to deliver on his promise of "MAGA". He instead did a Jeb Bush presidency, complete with Wall Street (Mnuchin) and the CIA (Pompeo) running the country exactly as would have…

Nah. You cant explain fascism just by them being desperate economically. That is not how it works. They did not had to have Trump to be representant of the republican party again. If they were bothered by economics, they would pick someone else even if they wanted to change parties. They wanted to cause harm for reasons unrelated to economics.

You see an electorate that wanted to cause harm. I see an electorate that thought anything is better than a black woman in charge. :-\

Re: Phyllis Fong, who was investigating Neuralink, "forcefully removed "

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Post by jazzyjackson »

bmitc wrote: post #10
r0ckarong wrote: post #4

Nothing to see here. Just a massive conflict of interest from an unelected foreigner exacting power over your government.

An illegal immigrant at that.

It’s not illegal for the rich to pay to skip the line. (For the uninitiated, at first glance it would appear Elon was in violation of his J-1 student visa as he didn’t attend classes at Stanford, but he was swiftly employed by way of an H1-B visa and had the paperwork fast tracked through his VC-DC connections. His brother did refer to himself and Elon as illegal immigrants tho, I would say no more illegal than our First Lady.)

The law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich as well as the poor to sleep under bridges, to beg in the streets, and to steal bread

Re: Phyllis Fong, who was investigating Neuralink, "forcefully removed "

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Post by myvoiceismypass »

arctek wrote: post #59
malfist wrote: post #45

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What part of the cure is illegally firing someone who was investigating you for a valid, non political reason? There's no cure in that, just corruption.

Except that nothing is illegal now, Biden showed that with blanket pardons. So for all intents and purposes they will do what they like and Trump can just wipe it clean at the end.

Do you mean “SCOTUS ruled that the president has ultimate immunity”?

Re: Phyllis Fong, who was investigating Neuralink, "forcefully removed "

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Post by khazhoux »

Terr_ wrote: post #40
khazhoux wrote: post #13

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The people spoke very clearly in November: they wanted this.

A minority spoke clearly. Many of "the people" didn't vote, and Trump got less than 50% of those that did.

Everyone who decided not to vote literally relinquished their voice in the matter. They simply don't count. They were "OK" with whatever others decided. Their opinion has as much weight as my dog's (and I don't even have a dog!).

Re: Phyllis Fong, who was investigating Neuralink, "forcefully removed "

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Post by amazingamazing »

foobarchu wrote: post #44
callamdelaney wrote: post #21

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Trump has decided he controls the purse (a privilege of the legislative branch that he legally DOES NOT HAVE), has begun to fire people illegally and ignoring the legal methods (such as Fong), is doing so through someone who is not part of the federal government and has active conflicts of interest (Musk), and is actively working to remove the 22nd amendment that prevents him from becoming a dictator for life. Most o…

I bet America will be basically the same as it was in 2012, with respect to having two houses of congress, and democratically run elections, by 2028.
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