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Re: CDC data are disappearing

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Post by lcnPylGDnU4H9OF »

treis wrote: post #92
CalRobert wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As it so happens he did not appear on any ballots. But Musk (his aides more specifically) have locked federal employees out of their own systems https://www.reuters.com/world/us/musk-aides-lock-government-... Evidently set up an on-prem email server at the OPM to send out their emails asking disloyal employees to resign https://gizmodo.com/federal-employees-sue-agency-over-new-em... And is attempting to do the same a…

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They didn’t exaggerate with “locked federal employees out of their own systems”. That is accurate even if both sets of “employees” and “systems” are non-exhaustive.

Re: CDC data are disappearing

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Post by addicted »

liontwist wrote: post #78
bongodongobob wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The US is undergoing a fascist takeover basically.

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Which cabinet position was Musk appointed to? (In fact, in the U.S. the president doesn’t appoint cabinet members, but sure, you don’t understand the basics of how the govt works but you know what fascism is better than experts who’ve studied and written about it for decades).

Is Musk the head of the OPM?

Also, policy cannot break the law and certainly cannot break the constitution. That is fascism. The executive doesn’t get to rewrite laws and the constitution.

Re: CDC data are disappearing

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Post by ajross »

pupppet wrote: post #77
paulyy_y wrote: post #13

What's more depressing is this was completely predictable, totally avoidable, but half the country welcomed this wave of oppression with open arms.

And this half of the country that gets their news from exactly one news source will either never hear about these events or see them repackaged as wins.

To be fair, media consumption is broad and even in the deepest red retirement communities of Darkest Appalachia, no one subsists only on Fox.

In fact there is an active community of very Trumpy libertarians on this very website who pop up in the handful of political threads that make the front page. They seem to be silent here, one hopes maybe they've been given pause.

Re: CDC data are disappearing

#104

Post by tlogan »

Nobody complained about downtimes (at least for Atlas Plus) when they started changing “sex” to “sex or gender” / “gender.” Let’s be honest.

I can’t find a single article about this because it was considered normal—they were simply upgrading their system. The level of dishonesty here is astounding.

Let’s wait three weeks. If Atlas Plus is still down, I’ll post an update here.

Re: CDC data are disappearing

#105

Post by liontwist »

addicted wrote: post #102
liontwist wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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Which cabinet position was Musk appointed to? (In fact, in the U.S. the president doesn’t appoint cabinet members, but sure, you don’t understand the basics of how the govt works but you know what fascism is better than experts who’ve studied and written about it for decades). Is Musk the head of the OPM? Also, policy cannot break the law and certainly cannot break the constitution. That is fascism. The executive doe…

There is another comment explaining his appointment.

It’s really hard to argue why the president cannot get advice from anyone he would like. His staff includes anyone he wants to employ. He just can’t freely give them positions of official authority.

> The executive doesn’t get to rewrite laws and the constitution.

the judicial branch is working and can challenge orders and take them to court. And is already doing so.

> That is fascism.

It’s really not. You should study what fascists believed rather than using them as a caricature for bad policy.

Re: CDC data are disappearing

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Post by nehal3m »

liontwist wrote: post #95
nehal3m wrote: post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Whether or not you’ve been duly elected has nothing to do with whether or not you behave like a fascist afterwards. Most fascists were elected.

Indeed 20th century fascist revolutions used the guise of law for their takeover. Following them would include banning the existence of other parties, changing the constitution to give all power to executive, cancelling elections, etc. I assumed the poster was using facist to mean “bad authoritarian government” - not that trump is actually a disciple of Mussolini style philosophy. Right now the democratic system is w…

If you ask me those are boxes yet to be ticked, but we’ll see.

Re: CDC data are disappearing

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Post by conartist6 »

lefstathiou wrote: post #10
conartist6 wrote: post #2

The target isn't the people, the target is science. It is becoming clear that the intent is to govern through fear.

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I'm sorry to tell you this, but the sign was lying to you. It is already too late to "turn back the clock" on climate change. The droughts, the floods, the fires: we are already paying the debts of past inaction.

Re: CDC data are disappearing

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Post by ceejayoz »

pupppet wrote: post #77
paulyy_y wrote: post #13

What's more depressing is this was completely predictable, totally avoidable, but half the country welcomed this wave of oppression with open arms.

And this half of the country that gets their news from exactly one news source will either never hear about these events or see them repackaged as wins.

“It appeared that there had even been demonstrations to thank Big Brother for raising the chocolate ration to twenty grammes a week. And only yesterday, he reflected, it had been announced that the ration was to be REDUCED to twenty grammes a week. Was it possible that they could swallow that, after only twenty-four hours? Yes, they swallowed it.“

Re: CDC data are disappearing

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Post by shrillhnpsycho3 »

tlogan wrote: post #104

Nobody complained about downtimes (at least for Atlas Plus) when they started changing “sex” to “sex or gender” / “gender.” Let’s be honest. I can’t find a single article about this because it was considered normal—they were simply upgrading their system. The level of dishonesty here is astounding. Let’s wait three weeks. If Atlas Plus is still down, I’ll post an update here.

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