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Re: CDC data are disappearing

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Post by basscomm »

bmitc wrote: post #73
CalRobert wrote: post #5

This is part of a broader rolling catastrophe. Musk is evidently seizing control of the Office of Personnel Management https://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2025-01-31/exclus... Nasa took down their applied sciences page and is evidently scrubbing the data https://www.reddit.com/r/gis/comments/1icqchv/why_is_the_nas... ( https://appliedsciences.nasa.gov/ ) Lots of other data sets are disappearing too: https://ma…

How is this not all illegal? How are cease and resists not being put into place? An illegal immigrant, narcissist, billionaire, and many other things is taking over federal agencies and actively purging them for his own ideologies.

It's only illegal if someone enforces the law

Re: CDC data are disappearing

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Post by bmitc »

lazide wrote: post #79
bmitc wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What do you propose? The only way to change is either voting, money, or violence. I'm generally lost as what to do.

Voting - already happened. Money - the folks doing this already have a ton of money, and used it in large part to get to this point. Violence - necessary for change, but against who exactly? anyone trying to be violent against the folks running this will be disavowed by 90% of the rest of the population, and galvanize an outsized violent crackdown against anyone and everyone who even somewhat looks like them. It’s go…

That's kind of my point. We're heading directly into Nazi, USSR, and CCP territory and gotta ride this out until another election (if we even have one), someone with money cares (they don't), or we're all ready for violence (it's all the idiots who have guns).

Re: CDC data are disappearing

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Post by nehal3m »

liontwist wrote: post #78
bongodongobob wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The US is undergoing a fascist takeover basically.

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Whether or not you’ve been duly elected has nothing to do with whether or not you behave like a fascist afterwards. Most fascists were elected.

Re: CDC data are disappearing

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Post by vharuck »

Dalewyn wrote: post #38
diggan wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Musk is evidently seizing control of the Office of Personnel Management Suddenly I feel out of the loop when it comes to US politics, how come Musk is suddenly seemingly seizing control of parts of the US government? I don't recall him being on any ballots or anything?

Musk was appointed as the administrator of DOGE, itself a subordinate "temporary organization" under the United States DOGE Service (formerly the United States Digital Service). All of this is happening within the Executive Office of the President, which is essentially fancyspeak to mean the government employees working the Executive Branch of the federal government. Those government employees serve at the pleasure o…

Most federal workers do not serve at the pleasure of the President, ever since the Pendleton Act in 1883:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pendleton_Civil_Service_Refo...

So remember, when Trump talks about the "deep state," he means workers hired through a merit system.

Re: CDC data are disappearing

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Post by Maxious »

bmitc wrote: post #73
CalRobert wrote: post #5

This is part of a broader rolling catastrophe. Musk is evidently seizing control of the Office of Personnel Management https://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2025-01-31/exclus... Nasa took down their applied sciences page and is evidently scrubbing the data https://www.reddit.com/r/gis/comments/1icqchv/why_is_the_nas... ( https://appliedsciences.nasa.gov/ ) Lots of other data sets are disappearing too: https://ma…

How is this not all illegal? How are cease and resists not being put into place? An illegal immigrant, narcissist, billionaire, and many other things is taking over federal agencies and actively purging them for his own ideologies.

Anything the president does is legal so says the supreme court

Re: CDC data are disappearing

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Post by agumonkey »

paulyy_y wrote: post #13

What's more depressing is this was completely predictable, totally avoidable, but half the country welcomed this wave of oppression with open arms.

I'd add that this playbook is running in many parts of the world. Rich people buying medias to shift the average to the right influencing the masses to stop thinking.

Re: CDC data are disappearing

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Post by Applejinx »

jagged-chisel wrote: post #60
Tyrubias wrote: post #3

It’s terrifying that data US taxpayers paid for, collected and analyzed in the name of public health, can be removed on a whim. While there are a lot of efforts to archive said data, it would still make it unavailable to Americans who are not tech savvy. Unfortunately, that seems to be the idea, I think.

Isn't this data already inaccessible to those who are not tech savvy? My grandma isn’t visiting any of the data download sites provided by the federal government. She doesn’t even know why she would, or even that such data is available. And if I provide it to her, she hasn’t the skills to do anything with it.

That's why this is more of an attack on the Hacker News demographic, not Grandma.

If you had a real startup doing real things in healthcare, this is an intentional spoke in your wheels.

Re: CDC data are disappearing

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Post by CalRobert »

bmitc wrote: post #73
CalRobert wrote: post #5

This is part of a broader rolling catastrophe. Musk is evidently seizing control of the Office of Personnel Management https://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2025-01-31/exclus... Nasa took down their applied sciences page and is evidently scrubbing the data https://www.reddit.com/r/gis/comments/1icqchv/why_is_the_nas... ( https://appliedsciences.nasa.gov/ ) Lots of other data sets are disappearing too: https://ma…

How is this not all illegal? How are cease and resists not being put into place? An illegal immigrant, narcissist, billionaire, and many other things is taking over federal agencies and actively purging them for his own ideologies.

Laws are just words

Re: CDC data are disappearing

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Post by whatshisface »

talldayo wrote: post #75
jagged-chisel wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Isn't this data already inaccessible to those who are not tech savvy? My grandma isn’t visiting any of the data download sites provided by the federal government. She doesn’t even know why she would, or even that such data is available. And if I provide it to her, she hasn’t the skills to do anything with it.

It's a bit like asking whether road signs are effective for Americans who can't read. The signs are there for the people that are using the road, and if you're not using the road you can safely ignore it.

It's also a bit like saying that medical school is an elitist institution that only benefits the medical class. :-)

Re: CDC data are disappearing

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Post by Insanity »

bmitc wrote: post #65
riffraff wrote: post #11

There's some people organizing to preserve stuff under the "safeguarding research" moniker https://fedihum.org/@SafeguardingResearch https://safeguarding-research.discourse.group/

That doesn't matter anymore. No one believed the CDC data to begin with. You think they're going to believe it when it comes from third-party backups?

I think the benefit is not just from regular people having access - but other researchers who do need/trust the data.
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