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Re: CDC data are disappearing

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Post by hypeatei »

CalRobert wrote: post #5

This is part of a broader rolling catastrophe. Musk is evidently seizing control of the Office of Personnel Management https://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2025-01-31/exclus... Nasa took down their applied sciences page and is evidently scrubbing the data https://www.reddit.com/r/gis/comments/1icqchv/why_is_the_nas... ( https://appliedsciences.nasa.gov/ ) Lots of other data sets are disappearing too: https://ma…

I would just like to point out that Musk is the richest man in the world and is now directing critical areas of the U.S. government. Surely he doesn't have ulterior motives and is looking out for the average person?

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Post by diggan »

paulyy_y wrote: post #13

What's more depressing is this was completely predictable, totally avoidable, but half the country welcomed this wave of oppression with open arms.

> but half the country welcomed this wave of oppression with open arms.

And the other half? They seem to welcome this as well, but with crossed arms. Where are the protests? Seems most people end up writing upset messages on Twitter/Bluesky, but also seems there are no grassroots movements to actually protest the borderline coup that is happening?

Re: CDC data are disappearing

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Post by linuxftw »

bandrami wrote: post #18
linuxftw wrote: post #15

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> I think we can all agree that depending on which administration is in charge, "Government Science" is anything but unbiased. Nope, but you've just made it clear you're susceptible to propaganda.

Will you trust the 'science' that is performed via the CDC under the Trump administration? Did you trust the 'science' performed under past administrations?

Now, imagine someone holding the reverse position. Who's right? Which government institutions do you find generally trustworthy, and which do you find generally untrustworthy? Has this changed from administration to administration? Do you think your ideological viewpoint has influenced your opinions?

Edit: None of the responders answered my questions. Its impossible for most people to admit political bias, as evidenced here.

Re: CDC data are disappearing

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Post by CalRobert »

diggan wrote: post #20
CalRobert wrote: post #5

This is part of a broader rolling catastrophe. Musk is evidently seizing control of the Office of Personnel Management https://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2025-01-31/exclus... Nasa took down their applied sciences page and is evidently scrubbing the data https://www.reddit.com/r/gis/comments/1icqchv/why_is_the_nas... ( https://appliedsciences.nasa.gov/ ) Lots of other data sets are disappearing too: https://ma…

> Musk is evidently seizing control of the Office of Personnel Management Suddenly I feel out of the loop when it comes to US politics, how come Musk is suddenly seemingly seizing control of parts of the US government? I don't recall him being on any ballots or anything?

As it so happens he did not appear on any ballots. But Musk (his aides more specifically) have locked federal employees out of their own systems

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/musk-aides-lock-government-...

Evidently set up an on-prem email server at the OPM to send out their emails asking disloyal employees to resign

https://gizmodo.com/federal-employees-sue-agency-over-new-em...

And is attempting to do the same at the US Treasury (edit: I meant to gain access to/control of, not the email server thing)

https://www.finance.senate.gov/chairmans-news/wyden-demands-...

The twitzkrieg seems to be working.

Re: CDC data are disappearing

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Post by nine_zeros »

America voted for cons, crooks and thugs. And is getting conned, crooked and thugged.

Entirely predictable. And well deserved. I say this as someone living and suffering in America.

There is no one else to blame but ourselves. The future is bleak.

Re: CDC data are disappearing

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Post by linuxftw »

beardyw wrote: post #22
linuxftw wrote: post #15

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No, this is censorship at work. Call it what it is.

I disagree. This is the government deciding what the government will or won't take a position on.

Censorship was having federal government employees scream and yell at facebook content moderation teams to remove social media posts.

Re: CDC data are disappearing

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Post by Applejinx »

diggan wrote: post #20
CalRobert wrote: post #5

This is part of a broader rolling catastrophe. Musk is evidently seizing control of the Office of Personnel Management https://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2025-01-31/exclus... Nasa took down their applied sciences page and is evidently scrubbing the data https://www.reddit.com/r/gis/comments/1icqchv/why_is_the_nas... ( https://appliedsciences.nasa.gov/ ) Lots of other data sets are disappearing too: https://ma…

> Musk is evidently seizing control of the Office of Personnel Management Suddenly I feel out of the loop when it comes to US politics, how come Musk is suddenly seemingly seizing control of parts of the US government? I don't recall him being on any ballots or anything?

The trouble is, to talk about WHY Musk is attempting to seize control of parts of the US government and why the Trump administration is attempting to censor mass quantities of data would be a political conversation.

Hacker News isn't designed for this. The point at which it becomes mass censorship that computer hackers (in their capacity as The Internet) might take an active role in routing around, is more or less this point: you're quite correct that this is worrying, but up to this point it's been a deeply political conversation and only as it becomes mass censorship and control by technological means, does it become really on-message for Hacker News.

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