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Re: Musk aides lock government workers out of computer systems at US agency

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Post by an_guy »

Tadpole9181 wrote: post #96
an_guy wrote: post #95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can you provide source for your claim?

https://tennesseelookout.com/2025/01/30/tennessee-house-pass... > The bill’s passage came despite concerns over the constitutionality of a provision creating a Class E felony, punishable by up to 6 years in prison and a $3,000 fine, for any public official who votes in favor of so-called sanctuary policies.

It was prohibited to create such policies since 2019[1]. They've increased punishment for offenders. You might want to read on what exactly changed[2]

Besides Tennessee law prohibits creation of "sanctuary city" way before Trump came into power.

[1] https://wapp.capitol.tn.gov/apps/Billinfo/default.aspx?BillN...

[2] https://wapp.capitol.tn.gov/apps/BillInfo/Default.aspx?BillN...

Re: Musk aides lock government workers out of computer systems at US agency

#102

Post by [deleted] »

Jtsummers wrote: post #43
rayiner wrote: post #33

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> If the President gets elected promising to fire executive branch employees, then his doing so is literally democratic. But it may not be legal , which is determined by the Constitution and laws set by Congress. People who are also elected democratically. Behaving in a manner counter to those laws is also fundamentally undemocratic, the President and the Executive are bound by those laws set by the representatives o…

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Re: Musk aides lock government workers out of computer systems at US agency

#103

Post by Tadpole9181 »

darthwalsh wrote: post #100
Tadpole9181 wrote: post #74

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From your link: >making it a felony for public officials to back sanctuary policies. Saying "vote against Republicans" makes it sound like voting against any Trump policy is a crime.

Yes, I quoted that in a comment.

I'm sorry, are you being a fascist apologist here? Is it remotely acceptable to make it a crime to vote a given way as a democratically elected representative? Once a single such law exists, it's now precedent we can do it anywhere.

Such a law doesn't even exist for murder for obvious reasons.

Re: Musk aides lock government workers out of computer systems at US agency

#104

Post by Tadpole9181 »

an_guy wrote: post #101
Tadpole9181 wrote: post #96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://tennesseelookout.com/2025/01/30/tennessee-house-pass... > The bill’s passage came despite concerns over the constitutionality of a provision creating a Class E felony, punishable by up to 6 years in prison and a $3,000 fine, for any public official who votes in favor of so-called sanctuary policies.

It was prohibited to create such policies since 2019[1]. They've increased punishment for offenders. You might want to read on what exactly changed[2] Besides Tennessee law prohibits creation of "sanctuary city" way before Trump came into power. [1] https://wapp.capitol.tn.gov/apps/Billinfo/default.aspx?BillN... [2] https://wapp.capitol.tn.gov/apps/BillInfo/Default.aspx?BillN...

It was prohibited to enact those policies. But that's performative, it has always been illegal to aid criminals. It's also technically illegal to sell weed in Colorado.

This makes it illegal to vote. That's first amendment protected behavior and has long been precedent. And once they set the precedent they can make voting a particular way illegal, they'll apply that same law to more and more laws - and then they'll apply it to citizens (based on the SCOTUS ruling that legislators have the same first amendement right as citizens). Stop being a fascist apologist and pretending this behavior is normal.

It is not God damn normal to outlaw voting a specific way. It's their job to represent their electorate and that's literally how we're supposed to change the system in democratic system. This is clearly a move to make it illegal to progressive.

Re: Musk aides lock government workers out of computer systems at US agency

#105

Post by an_guy »

Tadpole9181 wrote: post #104
an_guy wrote: post #101

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It was prohibited to create such policies since 2019[1]. They've increased punishment for offenders. You might want to read on what exactly changed[2] Besides Tennessee law prohibits creation of "sanctuary city" way before Trump came into power. [1] https://wapp.capitol.tn.gov/apps/Billinfo/default.aspx?BillN... [2] https://wapp.capitol.tn.gov/apps/BillInfo/Default.aspx?BillN...

It was prohibited to enact those policies. But that's performative, it has always been illegal to aid criminals. It's also technically illegal to sell weed in Colorado. This makes it illegal to vote . That's first amendment protected behavior and has long been precedent. And once they set the precedent they can make voting a particular way illegal, they'll apply that same law to more and more laws - and then they'll…

I do have to agree punishing elected representative for voting is a slippery slope.

But in this case, it didn't really change anything.

Re: Musk aides lock government workers out of computer systems at US agency

#106

Post by ffsm8 »

cdme wrote: post #21
ge96 wrote: post #19

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why is that word used, this guy has like 9 kids

He also acts like a child. An uninspired edgelord like Musk shouldn't be in government.

Doesn't change the fact he cannot be involuntarily celibate after fathering 9 kids. The usage of the term in this vain is basically the same as if I called cyanydeez "retarded" over the usage of this term.

A word with a negative connotation that inapplicable by definition, but used anyway because they consider people that are such to be lesser people.

Re: Musk aides lock government workers out of computer systems at US agency

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Post by defrost »

ffsm8 wrote: post #106
cdme wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He also acts like a child. An uninspired edgelord like Musk shouldn't be in government.

Doesn't change the fact he cannot be involuntarily celibate after fathering 9 kids. The usage of the term in this vain is basically the same as if I called cyanydeez "retarded" over the usage of this term. A word with a negative connotation that inapplicable by definition, but used anyway because they consider people that are such to be lesser people.

Logic and reality take issue with your use of "cannot"

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-65429936

Musk may very well have had Grimey sex, it still remains possible to father > 500 children without having had sex with their mothers.

https://time.com/6176310/our-father-true-story-netflix/

Re: Musk aides lock government workers out of computer systems at US agency

#108

Post by Tadpole9181 »

an_guy wrote: post #105
Tadpole9181 wrote: post #104

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It was prohibited to enact those policies. But that's performative, it has always been illegal to aid criminals. It's also technically illegal to sell weed in Colorado. This makes it illegal to vote . That's first amendment protected behavior and has long been precedent. And once they set the precedent they can make voting a particular way illegal, they'll apply that same law to more and more laws - and then they'll…

I do have to agree punishing elected representative for voting is a slippery slope. But in this case, it didn't really change anything.

The fact it is accepted by every single branch of government and is being done flagrantly in the open and their supporters cheer changes everything.

Re: Musk aides lock government workers out of computer systems at US agency

#109

Post by dang »

jdgoesmarching wrote: post #51

Why is this flagged? This seems like a pretty damn important tech story.

Users flagged it. We can only guess why users flag things, but in this case it seems unlikely to have any chance at a thoughtful conversation. It has the Ultimate Troll Ingredient but little actual information.

Re: Musk aides lock government workers out of computer systems at US agency

#110

Post by mostlysimilar »

dang wrote: post #109
jdgoesmarching wrote: post #51

Why is this flagged? This seems like a pretty damn important tech story.

Users flagged it. We can only guess why users flag things, but in this case it seems unlikely to have any chance at a thoughtful conversation. It has the Ultimate Troll Ingredient but little actual information.

You have the ability to unflag stories. This is critically important. Please do the right thing here.
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