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Musk aides lock government workers out of computer systems at US agency

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> The systems include a vast database called Enterprise Human Resources Integration, which contains dates of birth, Social Security numbers, appraisals, home addresses, pay grades and length of service of government workers, the officials said. > "We have no visibility into what they are doing with the computer and data systems," one of the officials said. "That is creating great concern. There is no oversight. It cr…

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Happens every administration. But someone from the opposition party always gets their nose out of joint and it makes news and it’s just the most horrible thing ever .

No, it does not. What happens every administration is that the high level managers are fired. Those are political appointees and it is normal and expected for them to be replaced. What is not normal is going after the rank and file employees. Those are not political appointees.

Just how many actual “rank and file employees” have actually been targeted or fired so far?

If you are going to bring up the RTO directive, please don’t, those folks are in full control of their continued employment and prior to March of 2020 having to actually go to an office to work would not be viewed as “targeting” anyone.

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Meh, that seems like hyperbole to me. Doesn't a real coup involve the military going into federal buildings and rounding up congressmen from opposing parties and detaining them? Forgive me for not viewing it the same way. The news is focusing on the airplane right now.

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> The systems include a vast database called Enterprise Human Resources Integration, which contains dates of birth, Social Security numbers, appraisals, home addresses, pay grades and length of service of government workers, the officials said. > "We have no visibility into what they are doing with the computer and data systems," one of the officials said. "That is creating great concern. There is no oversight. It cr…

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They don't trust them with democracy. They want fascism and destruction of democracy. The mandate is to destruct and damage.

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You cannot fix government by breaking laws. We are a country of laws not men. If you don't get that, get the fuck out.

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It’s because most Americans want a bigger government, not a smaller government. Americans like the socialized services a larger government can provide. They want government to be useful to them, not useless to them. You don’t really believe people want a small government, do you? They see a small government like Somalia. They don’t want Somalia. Remember a large government services the people. A small libertarian gov…

They want a big government that costs as much as a small government.

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No, it does not. What happens every administration is that the high level managers are fired. Those are political appointees and it is normal and expected for them to be replaced. What is not normal is going after the rank and file employees. Those are not political appointees.

Just how many actual “rank and file employees” have actually been targeted or fired so far? If you are going to bring up the RTO directive, please don’t, those folks are in full control of their continued employment and prior to March of 2020 having to actually go to an office to work would not be viewed as “targeting” anyone.

Dozens of rank and file prosecutors have been fired from the DOJ, because they worked on cases against the January 6 defendants or on cases against Trump.

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Why is this flagged? This seems like a pretty damn important tech story.

Because you have two parties of HN users that happily flag, which is enough. Those who are Trump supporters and those who just don't want any politics / the discussions surrounding it on HN. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Doesn't seem to be a duplicate, so dang might unflag it and remove the filter if he sees the thread.

You can always email dang about Flags you think are unjust. He's pretty responsive and fair. Just checkout the contact page linked at the bottom

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That's not how this works. We are a country of laws. The president is not a constitutional monarch.

>The president is not a constitutional monarch.

The president has carte blanche to create laws through executive order, nullifying the legislative branch.

The president has carte blanche to pardon Federal crimes, nullifying the judicial branch.

The president has sole command of the military. Going through Congress is a formality at best. If he says we're at war with Greenland tomorrow, we're at war with Greenland tomorrow.

And per SCOTUS, nothing the president does while in office in their official duties can be prosecuted as a crime.

And none of that "balance of powers" stuff means anything when party loyalty and loyalty to one person transcends the boundaries of office.

The president not be a monarch in theory, but in practice power has been accumulating in the executive branch for decades. The American people fundamentally fear and mistrust government, but they worship celebrities. They want to be ruled, if not by a king, by a CEO in chief.

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Just how many actual “rank and file employees” have actually been targeted or fired so far? If you are going to bring up the RTO directive, please don’t, those folks are in full control of their continued employment and prior to March of 2020 having to actually go to an office to work would not be viewed as “targeting” anyone.

Dozens of rank and file prosecutors have been fired from the DOJ, because they worked on cases against the January 6 defendants or on cases against Trump.

As others have asserted, this happens with every administration changeover. It is only more publicly viewable now (as in, people are reporting on it) due to the nature of the administration.

Now is a time for unity and joining together as Americans, not for divisiveness.

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