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Musk aides lock government workers out of computer systems at US agency

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Re: Musk aides lock government workers out of computer systems at US agency

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Post by tootie »

jghn wrote: post #20
tootie wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is beyond unconstitutional. Congress can reduce spending. It cannot be stolen in broad daylight by a private citizen. This is not a time to be sanguine. American democracy is dying before our eyes.

It only matters if the legislative and judicial branches care to push the issue. Which they don't.

Hell no it is not. That's like saying no crime has happened until there is a conviction. Trump and Musk's actions are very explicitly against the law. They won't be stopped or punished until action is taken, but it is still illegal right now.

Re: Musk aides lock government workers out of computer systems at US agency

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ge96 wrote: post #23
cdme wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He also acts like a child. An uninspired edgelord like Musk shouldn't be in government.

Yeah I'm not disagreeing with that, I'm so sad the space guy has become this I've probably just been too poor/whole life, never rich but I can't imagine being that much of an ahole regarding not helping others but might is right... right I also believe in the premise of capitalism (getting paid for merit/work) but yeah when you get to that much money why do you keep going for more

Greed, I suppose — or I suppose when you've stepped on enough people to get that rich you stop caring.

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Post by cdme »

tootie wrote: post #25
cdme wrote: post #17

Musk should have nothing to do with governing. Period.

This guy decided to get into politics like 5 months ago and is now the second most powerful person in the world purely by dint of being extremely wealthy. He bought the US government and it was apparently a bargain at $250M.

The system has been broken for a while, but that certainly made it clear. Reagan set in motion what led us to the current wealth disparity and Citizens United didn't help the state of things.

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Post by tbatchelli »

butterlettuce wrote: post #30
tbatchelli wrote: post #22

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Meh, that seems like hyperbole to me. Doesn't a real coup involve the military going into federal buildings and rounding up congressmen from opposing parties and detaining them? Forgive me for not viewing it the same way. The news is focusing on the airplane right now.

A military coup is a kind of coup, but not the only kind. This one, for example, is an auto-coup. Many coups don't look like one at first.

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Post by tootie »

butterlettuce wrote: post #30
tbatchelli wrote: post #22

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Meh, that seems like hyperbole to me. Doesn't a real coup involve the military going into federal buildings and rounding up congressmen from opposing parties and detaining them? Forgive me for not viewing it the same way. The news is focusing on the airplane right now.

Coups do not require troops. They simple require the existing regime to be removed.

Months ago, the leader of Project 2025 said a second Trump term would be "a second American Revolution" and "bloodless if the left allows it to be".

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/07/04/leader-of-the-pro-t...

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