Hate to post the same thing so soon again, but here's a list of a bunch more related ops and examples of COINTELPRO as well:
https://github.com/dessalines/essays/blob/main/us_atrocities...
Cointelpro
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Re: Cointelpro
#12>The Committee finds that the domestic activities of the intelligence community at times violated specific statutory prohibitions and infringed the constitutional rights of American citizens. The legal questions involved in intelligence programs were often not considered. On other occasions, they were intentionally disregarded in the belief that because the programs served the "national security" the law did not appl…
You need Congress to make clear, explicit changes to laws on the subject. Not just to add additional restrictions, but to make changes to liability. Right now, a lot of violations will get chastised in court, but the officials responsible will face no consequences due to qualified immunity.
I don't claim to know what the right was to address this situation is, this is a thorny legal issue, but someone needs to think through options and consequences.
Re: Cointelpro
#13>The Committee finds that the domestic activities of the intelligence community at times violated specific statutory prohibitions and infringed the constitutional rights of American citizens. The legal questions involved in intelligence programs were often not considered. On other occasions, they were intentionally disregarded in the belief that because the programs served the "national security" the law did not appl…
The program showed the "bad people" were already in charge and using covert method to remove their enemies. Cointel in particular was revealed by the efforts of radicals as a one-time thing. There's no reason to think that programs of it's sort ever stopped (though I'd guess levels of activity naturally waxed and waned, there haven't been the level of assassinations we saw in 60s but all probably just involves a different emphasis within the programs).
The main thing is that the existence of a large secret agencies maintaining whatever secrets they deem necessary makes a mockery of democracy in and of itself (beyond all the other things that do this in the US).
Re: Cointelpro
#14Notable passage: "The program was secret until March 8, 1971, when the Citizens' Commission to Investigate the FBI burgled an FBI field office in Media, Pennsylvania, took several dossiers, and exposed the program by passing this material to news agencies." Most of the various programs involving the CIA spying on, harassing and so-forth Americans have been revealed by either whistle blowers like Edward Snowden or gro…
So, in other words, you're saying that "the absence of evidence is not evidence of absence"?
Would these be known unknowns or unknown knowns?
Re: Cointelpro
#15>The Committee finds that the domestic activities of the intelligence community at times violated specific statutory prohibitions and infringed the constitutional rights of American citizens. The legal questions involved in intelligence programs were often not considered. On other occasions, they were intentionally disregarded in the belief that because the programs served the "national security" the law did not appl…
We aren't — the current administration is going to accelerate civil rights abuses not address them.
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#16Notable passage: "The program was secret until March 8, 1971, when the Citizens' Commission to Investigate the FBI burgled an FBI field office in Media, Pennsylvania, took several dossiers, and exposed the program by passing this material to news agencies." Most of the various programs involving the CIA spying on, harassing and so-forth Americans have been revealed by either whistle blowers like Edward Snowden or gro…
So, in other words, you're saying that "the absence of evidence is not evidence of absence"? Would these be known unknowns or unknown knowns?
We can neither confirm nor deny these knowns.
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#17Notable passage: "The program was secret until March 8, 1971, when the Citizens' Commission to Investigate the FBI burgled an FBI field office in Media, Pennsylvania, took several dossiers, and exposed the program by passing this material to news agencies." Most of the various programs involving the CIA spying on, harassing and so-forth Americans have been revealed by either whistle blowers like Edward Snowden or gro…
This probably means that FBI has done way worse stuff than this. It just wasn't exposed yet.
Re: Cointelpro
#18>The Committee finds that the domestic activities of the intelligence community at times violated specific statutory prohibitions and infringed the constitutional rights of American citizens. The legal questions involved in intelligence programs were often not considered. On other occasions, they were intentionally disregarded in the belief that because the programs served the "national security" the law did not appl…
You need Congress to make clear, explicit changes to laws on the subject. Not just to add additional restrictions, but to make changes to liability. Right now, a lot of violations will get chastised in court, but the officials responsible will face no consequences due to qualified immunity. I don't claim to know what the right was to address this situation is, this is a thorny legal issue, but someone needs to think…
Remove the concept of qualified immunity (which has no congress-passed law creating it as a concept) and replace its utility against spurious prosecution with a blanket mens rea requirement for individual blame for regulatory offenses in an official capacity.
Re: Cointelpro
#19Notable passage: "The program was secret until March 8, 1971, when the Citizens' Commission to Investigate the FBI burgled an FBI field office in Media, Pennsylvania, took several dossiers, and exposed the program by passing this material to news agencies." Most of the various programs involving the CIA spying on, harassing and so-forth Americans have been revealed by either whistle blowers like Edward Snowden or gro…
I knew an idealistic woman who went to the 9th ward after Hurricane Katrina to help people. She joined an impromptu group that had amongst it's organizers a Black Panther. The group was infiltrated by an undercover FBI agent and broken up. That's my anecdote. COINTELPRO was alive and well in 2005, at least.
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