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Google Pixel 4a's old firmware is gone, trapping users on buggy battery update

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Re: Google Pixel 4a's old firmware is gone, trapping users on buggy battery update

#261
Note that Google has publicly announced that the software update would reduce the battery capacity of some devices, at the beginning of the month:

> For some devices (“Impacted Devices”), the software update reduces available battery capacity and impacts charging performance.

https://support.google.com/pixelphone/answer/15701861?hl=en&...

More details in marcan's reverse engineering of the closed-source update: https://social.treehouse.systems/@marcan/113914172433692339

Re: Google Pixel 4a's old firmware is gone, trapping users on buggy battery update

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post #261

Note that Google has publicly announced that the software update would reduce the battery capacity of some devices, at the beginning of the month: > For some devices (“Impacted Devices”), the software update reduces available battery capacity and impacts charging performance. https://support.google.com/pixelphone/answer/15701861?hl=en&... More details in marcan's reverse engineering of the closed-source update: https…

> You can tell which battery you have physically by the number next to the QR code. 8230015901 is ATL (good) and 8230020501 is LSN (bad). If you're replacing your battery, make sure it's ATL.

Where do I find this info on my phone?

Re: Google Pixel 4a's old firmware is gone, trapping users on buggy battery update

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post #205

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Either of these are terrible. At no point has Google came out and stated -why- they're pushing this update in the first place." As I can still remember the days of software before "updates", I am still baffled by the always unsolicited "advice" amounting to "always update" without even considering what's in an "update". This "advice" is everywhere. Software quality control is at all-time lows I guess. Then came "aut…

> always update There's seems to be an army of aspiring CVE bros cargo-culting this idiocy; they pretend to live in a parallel universe where state-sponsored intelligence groups are spending millions to get at the cat photos on their phones. Obviously the premise that you should just blindly update a device where you have no recourse if the update breaks workflow/functionality/user experience (android, ios) or tries…

There have been quite a few real world examples of malware scanning the internet and just infecting every vulnerable device it can find. Though this mostly only affects things directly exposed like routers or servers.

Re: Google Pixel 4a's old firmware is gone, trapping users on buggy battery update

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post #51

I'm (we all are) constantly reminded to update our phones to latest available updates, but sh*t like this is what teaches users to instead disable and ignore updates indefinitely, under the premise of "if it works don't touch it" (addendum: "... because most probably an update will break it") And here I am, ignoring updates on my Pixel 6a since October 2024 (there were reports of crashes or bricking, what a surprise)…

If you ignore updates, you will get hacked. If you think a bad update is a problem, wait until you have to clean up a hack. It will cost more money and take more time than buying a new phone. My advice is to buy phones from reputable manufacturers. I have had an iPhone for over 10 years and I have been very happy. The work well, last, and the performance is always good. My current goal is to keep my current phone 7 y…

> My advice is to buy phones from reputable manufacturers.

You mean those slowing down your phone on updates [0] and not providing critical security updates in time [1] while not allowing existing more secure alternative browsers [2]?

The true alternative is phones running mainline Linux. Sent from my Librem 5.

[0] https://www.npr.org/2020/11/18/936268845/apple-agrees-to-pay...

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42780816

[2] https://news.ycombinator.com/context?id=42859836

Re: Google Pixel 4a's old firmware is gone, trapping users on buggy battery update

#265
used to be a long time pixel user. I had a pixel 2, 3 and 4a.

1. first one suddenly started bootlooping out of nowhere 2. second one's battery suddenly expanded out of nowhere and couldn't hold a charge more than 10 min 3. thrid one's battery started failing and woudln't turn on unless I plugged it into an external battery bank.

Sll 3 times while I was abroad and they are almost IMPOSSIBLE to get repaired. they use all csutom parts so none of teh repair shops were famiilar with them. google wouldn't do a thing till I came back to the united states to get the repairs done.

After 3 of these pieces of shit, I switched to an iphone. It just works. I've had zero issues with it and at least apple care won't force me to buy a ticket back to the states just to replace it.

Re: Google Pixel 4a's old firmware is gone, trapping users on buggy battery update

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post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The 8a is 3mm wider, 8mm taller, and 45g heavier. Perhaps that's not a huge difference, but I already consider the 4a too big. I will likely continue not upgrading as long as LineageOS and the hardware remain usable.

I switched from 4a to 8a. The weight difference is substantial and really noticable at first. I've gotten used to it now and it runs great with GrapheneOS, but it marked an end of an era of smaller, lighter phones for me.

I thought about the 8a, but the PostmarketOS support wasn't the best, so I opted for a safer chip

Re: Google Pixel 4a's old firmware is gone, trapping users on buggy battery update

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post #202

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Dev options have a setting to not apply updates on reboot. I'm hoping that'll work if I forget.

I can say from experience that it doesn't. I get daily notifications & popups telling me that I'm X days out of date.

If you're rooted you can turn (most of) these off.

Re: Google Pixel 4a's old firmware is gone, trapping users on buggy battery update

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post #12

You can revert this if you unlock your bootloader: https://xdaforums.com/t/undo-the-january-2025-update-without... (EDIT: Just to be clear, and which is also mentioned in that post: unlocking the bootloader will reset the device. If your device is already unlocked though, you will be able to keep the data.) Of course, I would just advise to switch to LineageOS directly, since Google has stopped providing security upd…

Be careful about doing that. Google announced that starting tomorrow, they're going to be remotely wiping all Pixel 4a's that aren't running the new update: https://www.reddit.com/r/Pixel4a/comments/1id6zw8/attention_...

How the hell is this even legal?

Re: Google Pixel 4a's old firmware is gone, trapping users on buggy battery update

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

apple is an advertising company too. what's the alternative?

Apple also has an advertising company. And they track you, but they get money by selling you stuff mostly. I’m deep into the Apple ecosystem system and they don’t force updates, try to upsell me every time updates are installed. I have no ads on the apps I use. They are quite happy for you to fork over gobs of money and call it a day. Googles primary source of income is ads. All this stuff they do is the primary way…

> I’m deep into the Apple ecosystem system and they don’t force updates

My iPad is pretty naggy to install updates, moreso than my Pixel phone even. iOS doesn't automatically update like Android does, but if anything that seems less like it's because Apple disagrees with that and more because their update system is so shit they can't get away with it. It's inexcusably slow to apply updates.

> try to upsell me every time updates are installed

They are the only ones to have lost a lawsuit for doing literally this. Batterygate wasn't that long ago, surely you didn't forget about it already? Heck class actions about it are still happening in various countries!

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