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Just like they try to keep the facade up that CL barely makes money. They are swimming in so much $ it's insane.
Proof?
I suppose we do have some estimates for their revenue, but not how much profit they actually make.
http://www.businessinsider.com/2011-digital-100#10-craigslis...
http://articles.businessinsider.com/2011-10-07/tech/30253426...
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Possible != practical in all cases.
There's no Constitutional right to a practical apartment hunt, either.
When a group can interfere with how you hunt for a place to live something is up. Where you live is pretty fundamental.
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Just like they try to keep the facade up that CL barely makes money. They are swimming in so much $ it's insane.
source?
When you can't beat them, sue them into the ground. Craigslist is one of the poorest user experiences around and succeeds only because people insist on using it. The alternatives somehow manage to be even more spectacularly useless by over-designing their apps and cluttering them up with junk. Padmapper is one of the few that does what they're supposed to do, and it's not even an optimal implementation of this sort o…
When you can't beat them, steal their work product. Padmapper is (indirectly) screen-scraping Craigslist's data in an attempt to unseat Craigslist.
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It's pretty clear that Padmapper is making use of the craigslist posts without the rights to do so, which is defined by Merriam-Webster as "stealing". STEALING transitive verb 1a : to take or appropriate without right or leave and with intent to keep or make use of wrongfully http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/stealing If you're going to downvote me, that's fine, but if you do, please show how copyright infrin…
There ought to be a rule that when someone reaches for the dictionary in a debate they've already lost. I keep seeing this on HN - a dictionary is probably the worst place go find out about what a word really means.
So the dictionary agrees with the common use of steal in the realm of intellectual property. It's really the proponents of copyright violation who have redefined stealing to exclude copyrighted digital media.
Craig Newmark said on Quora that the reason they didn't like people building stuff on top of Craigslist was simply the extra bandwidth they consumed: http://www.quora.com/Why-hasnt-anyone-built-any-products-on-... But now that 3Taps has found an ingenious way to get at the data with zero extra bandwidth cost to Craigslist (by retrieving it from the Google cache rather than CL itself), it's clear that what Craigslist…
The problem with a lot of startups in SV is that their only objective is to make money. Nothing else. Craigslist is very very rare exception.
Now lets downvoting starts...
Commenters here make this sound like an open and shut case in favor of Craigslist. IANAL, so could someone explain why Google's index of material covered by copyright is ok and PadMapper's is not?
[Law student here, but I don't know the full details of the claim CL is making] The case doesn't actually seem open and shut at all. CL seems to have a "moral high ground" in that they provide the original service and the platform for users to post information, but the legal ground is more shaky. It is relatively settled in copyright law (which appears to be the main thrust of CL's argument) that effort alone does no…
I find this sort of thing very frustrating to read: "The search tool is antiquated, the images are poor or nonexistent, locations of listings are hardly dependable, and you can forget about an integrated way to save anything for later reference. There is a litany of shortcomings that come with the Craigslist apartment search; they are many and they are painful..." If you don't like the site, don't like the UI, and ca…
That's disingenuous. Craigslist is pretty much the only game in town in many places. Let's say you need to find a person with a specific need, willing to pay $2000 a month. If you don't find this person, you have to pay the $2000 a month. How do you feel about not using Craigslist now?
Why doesn't Craigslist want PadMapper using their information? (I know that's irrelevant to the lawsuit) The more people that use PadMapper and find CraigsList entries on there, the more people that are using CraigsList. Why wouldn't they want that? If I were a real estate listing company, I'd want my data to be found on as many real estate search apps as possible.
Has there ever been any consideration at some kind of partnership? I know there may be some bad blood at this point, but I don't see how it wouldn't benefit both Padmapper and Craigslist to potentially work together to create an alternate Craigslist(using the same data). The contracts would have to be thorough about profit sharing, but it seems at least possible. If people had a secondary Craigslist portal they could…