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Re: Blueskyfeedbot: Post RSS Feeds to Bluesky via GitHub Actions

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Post by robertlagrant »

Eric_WVGG wrote: post #29
skybrian wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don’t know what you mean by “kneecapped.” I’ve using Newsblur for at least a decade and it works fine.

I mean that it kneecapped the idea of RSS in the social consciousness. Most people believe that when Google Reader shut down RSS stopped existing, if they even knew what RSS was in the first place. A friend of mine — in tech — asked me the other day where I was hearing a bunch of stuff and I said “my RSS feeds” and he laughed at me. That”s what I mean.

> if they even knew what RSS was in the first place

This is the point. Even when it existed, almost no-one knew what RSS was.

Re: Blueskyfeedbot: Post RSS Feeds to Bluesky via GitHub Actions

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Post by mhitza »

Eric_WVGG wrote: post #4

RSS and AT Proto have been on my mind all week. Even though RSS is my main source of news, it’s impossible to get around the fact that the (incredibly, unfathomably stupid) shutdown of Google Reader kneecapped it. AT Protocol is more than “let’s make Twitter more open” — it’s an open protocol for anything that’s real-time and shareable. I was never a big Google Reader guy, I liked traditional clients like NetNewsWire…

> an open protocol for anything that’s real-time and shareable

Does that mean that at the protocol level one can share content of larger sizes than what Bluesky does by default?

Even though not standard at least via the ActivityPub protocol one can set more reasonable character lengths, though unsure how most Mastodon clients handle that in practice.

Bluesky devs seem set, from some past HN interaction, on keeping the restriction in place for the app.

In a decentralized application, such as Bluesky, as opposed to Mastodon, I can see a future where it would be a replacement for Reddit and HN, without those limits. As to what HN would be in such a future: a stream (or whatever term their use) of content curated/moderated by dang.

Re: Blueskyfeedbot: Post RSS Feeds to Bluesky via GitHub Actions

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Post by TheCowboy »

skybrian wrote: post #22
Eric_WVGG wrote: post #4

RSS and AT Proto have been on my mind all week. Even though RSS is my main source of news, it’s impossible to get around the fact that the (incredibly, unfathomably stupid) shutdown of Google Reader kneecapped it. AT Protocol is more than “let’s make Twitter more open” — it’s an open protocol for anything that’s real-time and shareable. I was never a big Google Reader guy, I liked traditional clients like NetNewsWire…

I don’t know what you mean by “kneecapped.” I’ve using Newsblur for at least a decade and it works fine.

It's complicated, and I think it's less malicious in a way that "kneecapped" implies. Sure, RSS still exists in some form, but I think the utility of it has been in decline, and a lot of 'content' simply isn't accessible by RSS feed anymore.

An argument can be made that they provided an RSS reader service no one could come close to matching and basically dominated the area. Google's deep support also helped it proliferate. It is maybe underrated that RSS was likely one defense the web had against the dominance of walled gardens and social media. It allowed a lot of sites to flourish that I think would not get any traction today.

Re: Blueskyfeedbot: Post RSS Feeds to Bluesky via GitHub Actions

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Post by cuu508 »

blakesterz wrote: post #11
simonw wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Google Reader shut down nearly 12 years ago. Its legacy now is that there are still people who are pissed off about that, and I get the impression that a surprising amount of them are now in positions where they get to make purchasing decisions over whether or not to buy Google Cloud. (Being a Mac+iPhone person I've settled in quite happily with NetNewsWire now, but it took me a few years to get there.)

My distrust of Google certainly started with the shutdown of Reader. Everything they've done since has made it worse. I was in the position to choose a cloud provider several years ago and would not even consider GCP. I seriously doubt they'll kill GCP, but I see no reason to take a chance on anything Google does outside of search, docs, mail and the core things.

It is unlikely Google will shut down GMail, but at an individual level you can lose access to it without any warning. I no longer trust it as my primary email.

Re: Blueskyfeedbot: Post RSS Feeds to Bluesky via GitHub Actions

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Post by dmonitor »

rpmisms wrote: post #6
simonw wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've been using Cron for over 20 years. I still use https://crontab.guru rather than trying to remember the syntax for those fields.

Cron expressions aren't bad. Now regex.... nope.

For some reason regex just clicked for me very easily. Granted, I use regexr.com to check my work and tune it, but I find that the syntax just makes sense when I know what I want to find.

Re: Blueskyfeedbot: Post RSS Feeds to Bluesky via GitHub Actions

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Post by throwaway519 »

skybrian wrote: post #22
Eric_WVGG wrote: post #4

RSS and AT Proto have been on my mind all week. Even though RSS is my main source of news, it’s impossible to get around the fact that the (incredibly, unfathomably stupid) shutdown of Google Reader kneecapped it. AT Protocol is more than “let’s make Twitter more open” — it’s an open protocol for anything that’s real-time and shareable. I was never a big Google Reader guy, I liked traditional clients like NetNewsWire…

I don’t know what you mean by “kneecapped.” I’ve using Newsblur for at least a decade and it works fine.

I ride a horse to work. But I will admit the lack of watering holes and places to tie her up outside the supermarket has become a pain.

Re: Blueskyfeedbot: Post RSS Feeds to Bluesky via GitHub Actions

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Post by user3939382 »

mullingitover wrote: post #27

We've really come full circle. Back when Facebook was a user-friendly place, you could connect any RSS feed to your Facebook feed. My FB was just a collection of things I posted to del.icio.us, flickr, etc etc. It really was a sign of the crapification of that place that was to come when they ripped out this feature.

Not to mention XMPP integration. Obviously a totally different philosophy that actually cared about the user.

Re: Blueskyfeedbot: Post RSS Feeds to Bluesky via GitHub Actions

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Post by skybrian »

Eric_WVGG wrote: post #29
skybrian wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don’t know what you mean by “kneecapped.” I’ve using Newsblur for at least a decade and it works fine.

I mean that it kneecapped the idea of RSS in the social consciousness. Most people believe that when Google Reader shut down RSS stopped existing, if they even knew what RSS was in the first place. A friend of mine — in tech — asked me the other day where I was hearing a bunch of stuff and I said “my RSS feeds” and he laughed at me. That”s what I mean.

Lots of stuff shared on Hacker News is far from mainstream. Is it really so bad to use a tool that other people aren’t aware of?

Your friend sounds rather ignorant.

Re: Blueskyfeedbot: Post RSS Feeds to Bluesky via GitHub Actions

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Post by skybrian »

TheCowboy wrote: post #33
skybrian wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don’t know what you mean by “kneecapped.” I’ve using Newsblur for at least a decade and it works fine.

It's complicated, and I think it's less malicious in a way that "kneecapped" implies. Sure, RSS still exists in some form, but I think the utility of it has been in decline, and a lot of 'content' simply isn't accessible by RSS feed anymore. An argument can be made that they provided an RSS reader service no one could come close to matching and basically dominated the area. Google's deep support also helped it prolif…

I haven’t noticed a decline in support for RSS. Essentially all blogs support it, even relatively new ones like Substack that are more email-centric.
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