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Adding iodine to salt played a role in cognitive improvements: research (2013)

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Re: Adding iodine to salt played a role in cognitive improvements: research (2013)

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Post by 29athrowaway »

taeric wrote: post #109

This has me curious on how I would know if my family needs more iodine? We have largely been on kosher salt for a long long time. It is just more pleasant to use while cooking. I could, I think, just switch a lot of what we do back to iodized salt? Feels pointless if not needed, though.

You likely eat other kosher products that do not use "kosher salt".

Using "kosher salt" is not always a requirement for a product to be kosher. Technically all salt is kosher if it is produced under kosher supervision, even if it's not "kosher salt".

(And some salt labeled as "kosher salt" can also be not actually kosher!)

"Kosher salt" should be rather called "koshering salt", which is the salt you would use for koshering meat.

And like most people, you likely eat more salt than strictly needed because there's salt in everything. So consuming more salt should be of least concern.

Re: Adding iodine to salt played a role in cognitive improvements: research (2013)

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Post by sysworld »

shortrounddev2 wrote: post #102
PKop wrote: post #101

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's no point, why risk it, for what benefit? Just brush your teeth and apply topical fluoride periodically. It's not hard. Is it for you? Even a tiny negative impact on IQ is a dumb thing to accept in service to some nonsense rationale for your teeth. Accepting this tradeoff is an IQ test itself. I'm with Europe on this one.

I believe that you've selected a single study based on your existing biases and are basing your entire opinion off of it, rather than having done an honest amount of research into the nuances of the issue

Back when I looked into fluoride in water, my take away was that for adults it has little impact on IQ, but may have more on younger people. Research was still ongoing.

From my understanding, fluoride in water was more a thing done for poorer communities (or people with bad oral heath routines, aka not brushing your teeth), and the cheapest, most effective way to help these people is to put it in everyones water.

But from personal standpoint, the best way to look after your teeth is to brush with fluoride toothpaste, twice a day (ideally w/ electric brush), and floss once a day.

Fluoride mouthwash is also a good idea (but look up what a good mouthwash is, you don't want one with alcohol in it). Though using mouthwash isn't as important as brushing/flossing.

Personally, I'd rather not have fluoride in water until we have more conclusive reliable research on it. But having said that, I understand why it's often put in in a cost–benefit view point.

Re: Adding iodine to salt played a role in cognitive improvements: research (2013)

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Post by taeric »

29athrowaway wrote: post #111
taeric wrote: post #109

This has me curious on how I would know if my family needs more iodine? We have largely been on kosher salt for a long long time. It is just more pleasant to use while cooking. I could, I think, just switch a lot of what we do back to iodized salt? Feels pointless if not needed, though.

You likely eat other kosher products that do not use "kosher salt". Using "kosher salt" is not always a requirement for a product to be kosher. Technically all salt is kosher if it is produced under kosher supervision, even if it's not "kosher salt". (And some salt labeled as "kosher salt" can also be not actually kosher!) "Kosher salt" should be rather called "koshering salt", which is the salt you would use for kos…

Oh, I should have been clear there, I don't do kosher because it is "kosher." I just like the larger flakes and it is easier to cook with from familiarity. I'm assuming with time I could get used to iodized again, but not at all clear if I need to.

And we have actually been doing quite well with not eating out too often. Literally less than 5 times all month. Such that I am not at all worried that we are getting too much salt.

Though, that starts getting at the general question. How often should I get blood work for nutritional analysis? Because.... I don't know that I've ever done that.

Re: Adding iodine to salt played a role in cognitive improvements: research (2013)

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Post by hansvm »

dkarl wrote: post #29
erikpukinskis wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I also prefer cooking with the flakier stuff because I can grab a pinch of it and sprinkle it in a controlled way. I try to use iodized salt when it’s convenient: when salting pasta water, in baking, etc… but I wonder if my family is getting enough.

When my wife's doctor recommended more iodine in her diet, I was surprised how hard it was to find iodized flaky salt. I only found one brand I could order, and it was extremely expensive and didn't have a great texture for cooking with. I keep iodized table salt around and sometimes use it for salting soup, stock, or pasta water, but 99% of the time I reach for plain old Morton kosher salt.

Flaky salt is easy to make. You can adjust the texture as desired. I usually start with a bucket of sea water, but iodized salt works too.

Re: Adding iodine to salt played a role in cognitive improvements: research (2013)

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Post by 29athrowaway »

taeric wrote: post #113
29athrowaway wrote: post #111

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You likely eat other kosher products that do not use "kosher salt". Using "kosher salt" is not always a requirement for a product to be kosher. Technically all salt is kosher if it is produced under kosher supervision, even if it's not "kosher salt". (And some salt labeled as "kosher salt" can also be not actually kosher!) "Kosher salt" should be rather called "koshering salt", which is the salt you would use for kos…

Oh, I should have been clear there, I don't do kosher because it is "kosher." I just like the larger flakes and it is easier to cook with from familiarity. I'm assuming with time I could get used to iodized again, but not at all clear if I need to. And we have actually been doing quite well with not eating out too often. Literally less than 5 times all month. Such that I am not at all worried that we are getting too…

I see. Most sea salt also has no iodine if that's a concern.

Re: Adding iodine to salt played a role in cognitive improvements: research (2013)

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Post by taeric »

29athrowaway wrote: post #115
taeric wrote: post #113

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Oh, I should have been clear there, I don't do kosher because it is "kosher." I just like the larger flakes and it is easier to cook with from familiarity. I'm assuming with time I could get used to iodized again, but not at all clear if I need to. And we have actually been doing quite well with not eating out too often. Literally less than 5 times all month. Such that I am not at all worried that we are getting too…

I see. Most sea salt also has no iodine if that's a concern.

I was never concerned about iodine. A chef suggested kosher salt as being easier to use and I switched a long time ago. If anything, my concern now would be if I should make sure we are not lacking in iodine.

Re: Adding iodine to salt played a role in cognitive improvements: research (2013)

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Post by cubefox »

capitainenemo wrote: post #80
gilleain wrote: post #70

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I feel your use of TeX (or whatever that notation is precisely ...) is far too clear. Possibly use InChI instead, so instead of "$HPO_{4}^{2−}$", use "InChI=1S/H3O4P/c1-5(2,3)4/h(H3,1,2,3,4)/p-2". Or, more concisely, just use the key, which is "NBIIXXVUZAFLBC-UHFFFAOYSA-L". :) (from : https://www.ebi.ac.uk/chebi/searchId.do?chebiId=43474 )

Or just unicode. Standard digraphs ftw (xcompose, wincompose...). It's even typed in the same way (_4 ^+ etc) - and maybe there's tex tools that output unicode these days where possible? H₂O, NH₄⁺, NO, HCO₃⁻, HPO₄²⁻

Or Hacker News could finally add support for LaTeX and markdown...
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