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entourage?
Perhaps a polite way to say "harem"
That would be wishful thinking. I think he just meant, close female beings.
Adding iodine to salt played a role in cognitive improvements: research (2013)
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Re: Adding iodine to salt played a role in cognitive improvements: research (2013)
#82I grew up in Germany where iodized salt and flouridated water aren't the norm. Now I have bad teeth and can't wrap my head around the latest changes in the C++ language...
According to the current best guess, fluoridation lowers IQ scores:
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamapediatrics/fullarticle/...
Taylor KW, Eftim SE, Sibrizzi CA, et al. Fluoride Exposure and Children’s IQ Scores: A Systematic Review and Meta-Analysis. JAMA Pediatr. Published online January 06, 2025. doi:10.1001/jamapediatrics.2024.5542
Re: Adding iodine to salt played a role in cognitive improvements: research (2013)
#83Burger King continued to use iodized salt consistently, while McDonalds, Wendys etc have switched to flakier salts for their fries which cuts total sodium overall by being flatter instead of grainy, but without any iodine added to it. The downward trend in fast food began in the 70s, once sodium was seen as bad, so more salty tasting thin crystals were preferred. [1] - https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/20634172/ (on re…
Hmm, why don't they make iodized flaky salt?
I think it's a United States thing. There are other countries where all salt meant for human consumption must be iodized.
Re: Adding iodine to salt played a role in cognitive improvements: research (2013)
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Absolutely not!!
A single drop of Lugol's iodine has dozens of times the deily recommended amount of iodine, and such levels have been documented to cause harm to the thyroid. Including inducing hypothyroidism. To quote the American Thyroid Association (https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4267409/)
> We recommend against the use of dietary supplements, nutraceuticals, or other over-the-counter products either in euthyroid individuals or as a means of treating hypothyroidism. We particularly caution against the use of pharmacologic doses of iodine because of the risk of thyrotoxicosis and hypothyroidism in those with intact thyroid glands susceptible to becoming further dysregulated because of underlying thyroid pathology.
Re: Adding iodine to salt played a role in cognitive improvements: research (2013)
#85Earlier quoted context omitted.
I feel your use of TeX (or whatever that notation is precisely ...) is far too clear. Possibly use InChI instead, so instead of "$HPO_{4}^{2−}$", use "InChI=1S/H3O4P/c1-5(2,3)4/h(H3,1,2,3,4)/p-2". Or, more concisely, just use the key, which is "NBIIXXVUZAFLBC-UHFFFAOYSA-L". :) (from : https://www.ebi.ac.uk/chebi/searchId.do?chebiId=43474 )
Or just unicode. Standard digraphs ftw (xcompose, wincompose...). It's even typed in the same way (_4 ^+ etc) - and maybe there's tex tools that output unicode these days where possible? H₂O, NH₄⁺, NO, HCO₃⁻, HPO₄²⁻
Yes, that's pretty good ... but - the charges on [NH4]+, [HCO3]-, and [HPO4]2- should be above the subscripts on their last atoms. Minor point really.
Re: Adding iodine to salt played a role in cognitive improvements: research (2013)
#86Earlier quoted context omitted.
Or just unicode. Standard digraphs ftw (xcompose, wincompose...). It's even typed in the same way (_4 ^+ etc) - and maybe there's tex tools that output unicode these days where possible? H₂O, NH₄⁺, NO, HCO₃⁻, HPO₄²⁻
Yes, that's pretty good ... but - the charges on [NH4]+, [HCO3]-, and [HPO4]2- should be above the subscripts on their last atoms. Minor point really.
true, true... I wonder if that's even possible to do in unicode. maybe some combining char thing. I certainly wouldn't be able to type a digraph of it from memory if it is. But, I feel it's still more readable this way
Re: Adding iodine to salt played a role in cognitive improvements: research (2013)
#87need to cook food for dog due to medical reasons, and one of ingredients is iodized salt. so i had a quick look at this topic. so, as far as i remember: - different brands have different amount of iodine - iodine dissipates from opened salt container, with speed of dissipation been dependant on temperature and humidity - if you cook with iodized salt, most of it iodine disappears (depends on brand. some retain more )
I had never thought about point 1, and never knew about points 2 and 3.
Growing up in India, iodized salt was the norm. Given that I'm vegetarian, now that I have moved the US, I have continued to use iodized salt for my own cooking. Whatever Morton / Kroger / other grocery store brand is most readily available. I usually keep it stored in an airtight plastic jar but use it for cooking like normal.
Should I be worried about iodine loss during cooking?
Re: Adding iodine to salt played a role in cognitive improvements: research (2013)
#88Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Also doesn't water fluoridation cost a few IQ points? Yes https://ntp.niehs.nih.gov/whatwestudy/assessments/noncancer/...
That's not what the link claims. The combination of flouridated water, tooth paste, and other sources, etc can lead to levels that can cause problems, but it's not as simple as "fluoridated water bad".
"The NTP monograph concluded, with moderate confidence, that higher levels of fluoride exposure, such as drinking water containing more than 1.5 milligrams of fluoride per liter, are associated with lower IQ in children. "
So maybe not exactly "water fluoridation cost a few IQ points" in a broad sense, but close enough.
Re: Adding iodine to salt played a role in cognitive improvements: research (2013)
#89I grew up in Germany where iodized salt and flouridated water aren't the norm. Now I have bad teeth and can't wrap my head around the latest changes in the C++ language...
Iodized salt is quite the norm in Germany. You can buy the non -iodized version which is better for bread baking. But most everyone I know has iodized salt at home. Also doesn't water fluoridation cost a few IQ points? In the end I could imagine the effects cancelling each other out.
> Also doesn't water fluoridation cost a few IQ points?
No, it does not. This is speculation based on a poor understanding of the actual science.
Most of our fluoride exposure comes from eating normal food, water fluoridation is a small fraction of that. There are no measurable cognitive effects in the many developed parts of the world with natural fluoride levels far higher than used in municipal fluoridation. Furthermore, there is no plausible mechanism of action for how this would cause a cognitive deficit. Fluoride toxicity is well-understood because it has an unusually simple biochemical mechanism. Therefore it isn't surprising that the handful of low-quality studies that show a weak relationship to IQ loss don't replicate.
As someone who actually worked on fluorine chemistry, it is disappointing to see how credulous even many people with a STEM background are on this topic. The absence of a plausible mechanism of action alone should raise serious questions.
Re: Adding iodine to salt played a role in cognitive improvements: research (2013)
#90need to cook food for dog due to medical reasons, and one of ingredients is iodized salt. so i had a quick look at this topic. so, as far as i remember: - different brands have different amount of iodine - iodine dissipates from opened salt container, with speed of dissipation been dependant on temperature and humidity - if you cook with iodized salt, most of it iodine disappears (depends on brand. some retain more )
I had never thought about point 1, and never knew about points 2 and 3. Growing up in India, iodized salt was the norm. Given that I'm vegetarian, now that I have moved the US, I have continued to use iodized salt for my own cooking. Whatever Morton / Kroger / other grocery store brand is most readily available. I usually keep it stored in an airtight plastic jar but use it for cooking like normal. Should I be worrie…
depends on amount of salt that you use and your nutritional requirements...
for my dog I add salt after cooking. she won't know the difference