This whole topic is basura enfuego. Same pack of maroons careening around society for years clamoring for censorship now imagining that Aaron Schwartz is their hero and that they want to menace people. Kids, don’t be like the grasping fools in these threads, philosophically unfounded and desperately glancing sideways, hoping the cumulative feels and gossip will sum to life meaning.
OpenAI says it has evidence DeepSeek used its model to train competitor
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#373This is absolutely hilarious! :) ClosedAI scraped human content without asking and they explained why this was acceptable... but when the outputs of their training corpus is scraped, it is THEIR dataset and this is NOT acceptable! Oh, the irony! :D I shared a few screenshots of DeepSeek answering using ChatGPT's output in yesterday's article! https://semking.com/deepseek-china-ai-model-breakthrough-sec...
Even more hilarious given their own charter: > We will attempt to directly build safe and beneficial AGI, but will also consider our mission fulfilled if our work aids others to achieve this outcome. > Our primary fiduciary duty is to humanity. We anticipate needing to marshal substantial resources to fulfill our mission, but will always diligently act to minimize conflicts of interest among our employees and stakeho…
Ah yes: "duty to humanity"
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#374Everyone is responding to the intellectual property issue, but isn't that the less interesting point?
If Deepseek trained off OpenAI, then it wasn't trained from scratch for "pennies on the dollar" and isn't the Sputnik-like technical breakthrough that we've been hearing so much about. That's the news here. Or rather, the potential news, since we don't know if it's true yet.
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#375Live by the sword...
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#376I guess their CEO was too busy to write something in defense of US export controls (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42866905), or (even more scary) he doesn't need to anymore.
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#377What's good for the goose is good for the gander. Obviously a transformative work and not an intellectual property violation any more than OpenAI injesting every piece of media in existence.
Injesting is sure the right take. What a circus!
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#378No honour among thieves
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#379Next up: «DeepSeek models are a national security risk, we must block access!»
Re: OpenAI says it has evidence DeepSeek used its model to train competitor
#380So what? They probably paid for api access just like everyone else. So it's a TOS violation at worst. Go ahead, open a civil suit in the US against an entity the US courts do not have jurisdiction over and quit whining...
>open a civil suit in the US against an entity the US courts do not have jurisdiction over
Yeah, over a Chinese company no less.