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Re: Closed for Business

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post #7

"it’s open - with the corrosive mentality that surrounds such openness." That's must be why Oracle and IBM have never made money supporting their products on Linux - it's that corrosive mentality of having the core of the underlying kernel be open source.

"Existence of some viable open source models doesn’t change the reality for the vast majority of developers. We don’t have a rich daddy like Mozilla. We don’t have an operating system for which we can use a paid-support model. We just want to make apps, then sell enough copies of them so that we can make some more. "The only principle that enters into it is that of survival: keeping food on the table, and making sure…

The article seemed to be saying that since android is based on a FOSS kernel, and FOSS is a cancer (in Balmer's famous words) then people will pirate Android apps. Of course iOS is based on an essentially public domain BSD kernel where you are free to copy it all you want.

But you could read it to say, the Google app store is more open than Apple's restricted/approved walled garden and this allows more pirate apps. The article isn't very clearly written.

Of course the open access also avoids the many stories we get on here about - my original app was arbitrarily removed by someone at Apple because they thought it was the copy of another app - and I can't talk to anyone about it.

Re: Closed for Business

#12
His entire premis would require that there could never be a software business on the PC because it is open (it is far more open than Android). Thereis, so he is wrong.

Re: Closed for Business

#13
post #6

Doesn't Android provide a license verification service, much like the recently discussed iTunes receipt validation process? I have an app, GPS Aids, which checks online if my license is valid. Again, this can be blamed on the developers, for not taking any reasonable steps to prevent piracy. If the app has to be cracked, it's going to reduce the piracy rate quite a bit. As an aside.. I would never pirate a $1 app, th…

Yes, and there are widely distributed tools (Lucky Patcher) that remove that license check. As long as you can jailbreak (or sideload) there will be a way to bypass the copy protection, unless there is a server-side feature with server-side receipt validation. Ever has it been thus.

Re: Closed for Business

#14
> here’s a tutorial on how to “sideload” Android apps (in practice, as with most articles that mention “backups” of software from nebulous sources, this is a tutorial about piracy)

Uh... Sideloading is not about piracy. One of the nice things about Android is that you are not locked into getting your apps from a store. I've sideloaded apps my company is creating. I've sideloaded apps that friends have made. I've sideloaded advance betas from companies I've had a relationship with. Sideloading is just installing a file.

Re: Closed for Business

#15
> Stories like this come as no surprise, but the industry press rarely deals with the core problem - and nor does Google.

Yeah, except the part where Google announced encrypted applications from the Android Market at Google I/O. The presenter got light applause and seemed confused, asking for more applause. It seems that no one figured out the implications of that. Apps will be encrypted with a device-specific key from the store. People have been complaining about this since forever, Google is taking a major step to address the piracy problem, and no one has noticed.

Re: Closed for Business

#16

Your whole article is based on a publicity stunt. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4280871 Dead trigger makes its money from in-app purchases. In practice it is no more free now than it was before. Piracy is rampant on iOS too. It's slightly more harder on an iOS device, but it's not exactly difficult.

Dead Trigger was a bad example - personally I'm not wild about mixing purchase and in-app purchase at all - but in the overall discussion others stated similar experiences, in one case a developer quoting piracy rates of 90% on an app which I believe had no in-app purchases (sorry, can't find the link now). Football Manager 2012 handheld will be one I'll watch with interest. The publishers Sports Interactive have sai…

Are you talking about this? https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.sigames.fm....

If so, it seems to be doing pretty well so far for a $10 app.

Re: Closed for Business

#17
Not everything in the world is a business model. If Linus was in for the money 20 years ago, the world that we live in would be seriously fucked up (much more than it is today). Same goes for Google's Android - it's open, it's free. It's focused on abundance, on sharing.

Re: Closed for Business

#19
post #9

"A price-tag of one dollar is passive smoking. You’re killing people around you, for your own short-term benefit." They're killing their competition _and_ benefitting from it? Those poor fools!

Actually, it's quite a good analogy. No one benefits from this strategy in the final analysis because a race to the bottom makes all developers paupers. Smoking a cigarette relieves the pains of addiction (delivers short-term profit), kills you in the long term (destroys your business model), and imperils the health of the people around you (makes iOS and Android less desirable platforms).

That said, I disagree with the careless linking of FOSS principles and bad market practices. Linux, BSD, Apache: these technologies and others have had enormous positive impact that has enriched the industry as a whole more than paid versions could ever have benefited individual developers. However, the existence and promotion of FOSS in no way guarantees the cancer of one-dollar apps. Only developers' persistent undervaluation of their own work can do that. Specifically, their rush to capture the long tail of cheapskates at the cost of forgoing the bulk of the consumer surplus makes the entire market less desirable. Everybody loses when we must wade through a swamp of low-cost crap rather than the garden of costlier but higher-quality services we'd wish for.

Re: Closed for Business

#20
If I put it the same way the author did: "If you don't like Android's openness, this is your bus stop."

We don't NEED another iOS... iOS and WP7 is enough.

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