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I do not want AI to "polish" me

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Re: I do not want AI to "polish" me

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Post by codr7 »

whywhywhywhy wrote: post #34
tlonny wrote: post #19

AI "polishing" tools are essentially a form of anti-compression. Lets take some information represented concisely and needlessly pad it with formalities and waffle so it appears more "professional" (whilst also throwing away useful "metadata" like message tone). No doubt the recipient will also be using some form of AI summarization that strips away all that added "polish" - making the whole exercise entirely redunda…

Why read something someone couldn't be bothered to write.

Yeah, and once that happens, why read anything from them ever agin?

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Post by summermusic »

retropragma wrote: post #108
burkaman wrote: post #32

Obviously the AI version is bland and terrible, but arguably more importantly it has also completely changed the meaning of the message. The AI version: - apologizes - implies the recipient was "promised" this email as a "response" to something - blames a hectic schedule - invites questions None of this was in or was even implied in the original. This is not a "polished" version, it's just a straight-up different ema…

It's just shitty prompt design

No, it's because the AI makes shit up. No amount of prompting will fix this.

Re: I do not want AI to "polish" me

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Post by mrweasel »

MisterTea wrote: post #75

Is there anyone like me out there who has yet to use AI? I think it's interesting but I have no strong feelings for it. Aside from a few images generated with early image generators I have not used anything else, not even chatgpt. AI search results I mostly scroll past are an exception.

I've done a few experiments on some project I've been putting of, one involves parsing some email. There's certainly some interesting use cases, but I've yet to figure out how to actually go about deploying a solution.

It does seem, to me, that the benefits are there, but not to the extend that the AI companies would have me believe.

Re: I do not want AI to "polish" me

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Post by codr7 »

sghiassy wrote: post #28

My mother is a first-generation immigrant. Her writing isn’t ideal, but AI allows her to communicate articulately in a way, where before she might have been discriminated against

Awesome! Better hurry up to graduate out of the slop academy though, the style is becoming a red flag real fast now.

Re: I do not want AI to "polish" me

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Post by miningape »

taco_emoji wrote: post #135
miningape wrote: post #120

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Again you're coming at this with such intense anti-male rhetoric - take a step back and look at the problems beyond your own. Yes I completely agree women DO need to be more careful as they are far more vulnerable and men far more likely to take advantage. HOWEVER, playing off bad experiences for men as "a bad couple of hours" is just disingenuous. Women can absolutely ruin a mans life and reputation in those "couple…

Incredibly confused about what is "anti-male" about GP's post?

> A bad experience for you is a bad couple of hours and a few hundred hours. Ask a woman, what is a bad experience for them?

Playing the situation as though its 0% risk for men and 100% risk for women - making it seem as though only men can be harmful and they are by nature dangerous. Making it sound like no male has ever had a bad experience with women and the onus is completely on the males to fix this situation.

Meanwhile the only men who will listen to this advice are the ones who are already "safe" for women.

Probably the word "intense" shouldn't have been used by me and maybe I'm reading into it too deep.

Re: I do not want AI to "polish" me

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Post by codr7 »

throwaway173738 wrote: post #46

Forget Newspeak, we’ll just have get everyone on VR and polish their language until it’s identically upbeat no matter the situation.

I might forgive AI once it starts taking my video calls, nothing important ever happens and no one listens so it's a pretty perfect application.

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Post by tclancy »

escapecharacter wrote: post #110
cmrdporcupine wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The AI has some ... "ideas" ... of its own on what workplace relationships apparently need to be like.

A lot of people who want to replace most human interactions with LLMs assume that there is some objective set of cultural values true in all contexts, and that it is good and easy to encode these as axioms into an AI.

Yes. As an Old now (GenX), I feel like moving all interactions to text and now having AI as a man in the middle is just reinventing ways to get in a situation where a decade down the line you reconnect with someone who used to be a friend and both discover "Hey, that wasn't what I meant at all!"

As ever, T.S. Eliot was right: "It is impossible to say just what I mean!"

Re: I do not want AI to "polish" me

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Post by Izkata »

ipsento606 wrote: post #36

I simply do not understand the end game of these sorts of features. Presumably, the idea is to make the other person think you've written the email yourself, and you're a "better"/more corporate/more professional writer than you actually are. But once everyone starts using this kind of transformer, so nobody assumes that anyone else is actually writing the content they're sending out -- what's the point?! Who benefit…

> Who benefits?

Phishers.

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