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I do not want AI to "polish" me

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Re: I do not want AI to "polish" me

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Post by mcpar-land »

idoco wrote: post #22

I get the frustration, but I think there’s a hidden assumption in this discussion: that everyone can write well in English. Only about 5% of the world’s population are native English speakers, but more than twice that number use it daily. For many, AI rewriting isn’t about losing personal style—it’s about making sure they can communicate clearly in a language that isn’t their first. It’s fair to dislike how AI flatte…

If you can't translate your email into a foreign language, how is the AI going to rewrite your incorrect prose into correct prose? it's working on something incorrect. And then after the ai rewrites it, how can you tell if it's saying what you want it to?

When I'm communicating with a non-native speaker, I intentionally use shorter / easier to translate words and sentences, and I give them more leeway with word usage / don't expect them to use the right words all the time. And that's fine! Communication still happens! We manage!

But if a non-native speaker starts running their text through an AI it makes communication harder, not easier. I can't tell if their word choice is intentional or if the AI did it. A tiny mistake I can understand gets expanded into multiple incorrect sentences.

Re: I do not want AI to "polish" me

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Post by codr7 »

tlonny wrote: post #19

AI "polishing" tools are essentially a form of anti-compression. Lets take some information represented concisely and needlessly pad it with formalities and waffle so it appears more "professional" (whilst also throwing away useful "metadata" like message tone). No doubt the recipient will also be using some form of AI summarization that strips away all that added "polish" - making the whole exercise entirely redunda…

My (evidently mentally disabled) previous manager was so proud of being able to use AI to generate the bullshit he sent out to clients. What the morons are really doing is proving they're useless, let them.

Re: I do not want AI to "polish" me

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Post by ebiester »

miningape wrote: post #105
KittenInABox wrote: post #98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In my experience women are not statistically hyper selective. The less selective women are just out of the dating pool faster than the hyper selective ones. A lot of the women I know are happy to marry a man who grooms himself, respects basic boundaries, and has income. A lot of religious women in particular are socially pressured to drop the "respects boundaries" category also.

I think this is mainly a problem with dating apps - I have seen what you're talking about myself when the pair meets "naturally" or are set up by mutual friends. People are far more forgiving in real life than they are online. But part of the problem here is that the dating apps are like junk food: easy, satisfying, but ultimately unhealthy. And unfortunately because of this ease a lot of people reach for them instea…

If you've been set up by mutual friends, that means you have someone vouch for you. That means you're more likely to be safe.

A bad experience for you is a bad couple of hours and a few hundred hours. Ask a woman, what is a bad experience for them?

Re: I do not want AI to "polish" me

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Post by cowfriend »

danparsonson wrote: post #60
MrMcCall wrote: post #25

AI does not want to do anything, whatsoever. It's owners , however, definitely want you to fall into lockstep that cooking the Earth for their billion$ is perfectly fine and that waking up to a life of low-impact, serviceful compassion to the Earth and its peoples is just virtue-signalling when, in fact, it is simply virtuous in the face of demented psychosociopaths. Note that this all started with all that digital c…

Oh come on - we've been doing this since way before crypto was a thing. We knew about climate change in the 80s.

We knew about climate change in the 1880s.

There, fixed it for you.

Re: I do not want AI to "polish" me

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Post by AlfredBarnes »

dcre wrote: post #23

I actually use LLMs to unpolish dictation results from MacWhisper[0] to match the way I write in chats. MacWhisper lets you set a prompt to automatically post-process your transcribed output. Here is my prompt: 'You are a professional proofreader and editor. Your task is to rewrite this dictation with more casual capitalization and punctuation so it can be used in a chat setting. - Always capitalize "I" and derived w…

Do you know if there is a windows equivalent? I cant seem to find one that is as well done as this MacWhisper.

Re: I do not want AI to "polish" me

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Post by ebiester »

bloomingkales wrote: post #97
miningape wrote: post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No matter how much polishing a man does to his appearance / profile the biological reality is that women are sought after and men have to compete for their attention. There's some statistic along the lines of "the average female has about as much 'pull' as a male A list celebrity" This means that women will receive far more attention from the opposite sex, and therefore have an "easier" time finding potential partner…

Is it so hard to believe that going onto a digital marketplace with an order of magnitude more humans than you would ever physically deal with physically is probably what's leading to a type of thalassophobia (the fear of deep or vast bodies of water)? Life is simple. He or she lived in the town, or your school, or was someone you pass by on the way to work daily. It's not some complicated digital dance where the uni…

So, if a man has a bad experience, they're out a few hundred bucks and a few hours, in general.

Ask a woman who trusts you about their worst experiences sometime.

Re: I do not want AI to "polish" me

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Post by yoyohello13 »

mavhc wrote: post #47
bloomingkales wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You have to look at it holistically. This is the current modern Human: 1. Born into the beast, enters social media by 5-7 years old 2. All math and writing is done for you (becoming illiterate) 3. You don't have to spell ever again (becoming illiterate) 4. You cultivate a virtual persona since childhood (becoming vain) 5. Did your life really happen if it wasn't posted online (the digital existentialist crisis -- do…

The old human: 1. Born into plague 2. Never learns maths or writing 3. Nor spelling 4. Half the time your life ends before childhood does 5. Nothing happens in your life

Maybe we can have modern medicine AND no social media.

Re: I do not want AI to "polish" me

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Post by miningape »

ebiester wrote: post #113
miningape wrote: post #105

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think this is mainly a problem with dating apps - I have seen what you're talking about myself when the pair meets "naturally" or are set up by mutual friends. People are far more forgiving in real life than they are online. But part of the problem here is that the dating apps are like junk food: easy, satisfying, but ultimately unhealthy. And unfortunately because of this ease a lot of people reach for them instea…

If you've been set up by mutual friends, that means you have someone vouch for you. That means you're more likely to be safe. A bad experience for you is a bad couple of hours and a few hundred hours. Ask a woman, what is a bad experience for them?

Again you're coming at this with such intense anti-male rhetoric - take a step back and look at the problems beyond your own.

Yes I completely agree women DO need to be more careful as they are far more vulnerable and men far more likely to take advantage.

HOWEVER, playing off bad experiences for men as "a bad couple of hours" is just disingenuous. Women can absolutely ruin a mans life and reputation in those "couple of hours" - even worse if they get married and she decides to take him to the cleaners.

Look, I'm not coming at this as some anti-women basher - I see a societal issue that is hurting our men, women, and future. If we want to actually solve that problem the way forward is not increasing the hatred towards men and isolationism of women. We need to come together and not push each other further apart.

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