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I do not want AI to "polish" me

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Re: I do not want AI to "polish" me

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Post by BizarreByte »

oglop wrote: post #16
bloomingkales wrote: post #3

There is no way in hell anyone who knows me would get that email and not think I’d been abducted This person cares about not putting up a fake identity. That's pretty cool, but social media has exposed that a large number of people are perfectly fine presenting an illusion. People will have no shame passing off well written things as an output of their talent and hard work. Digital makeup has no bounds.

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Why such a hostile response to someone who cares about presenting themselves in a way they see fit? Your image is very important and it's logical that they want to control theirs.

Re: I do not want AI to "polish" me

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Post by jollyllama »

ragazzina wrote: post #78
pjc50 wrote: post #2

You have an individual and unique way of speaking and writing? We're going to have to polish that out with the slop machine, citizen.

What a strange complaint about AI. This already happens and happened without AI. >You have an individual and unique way of speaking and writing? You're going to wish your e-mail finds people well, corporate-monkey.

Is it really so strange to complain about the nudging towards the phenomenon of which you speak?

Re: I do not want AI to "polish" me

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Post by KittenInABox »

baq wrote: post #48
bloomingkales wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You have to look at it holistically. This is the current modern Human: 1. Born into the beast, enters social media by 5-7 years old 2. All math and writing is done for you (becoming illiterate) 3. You don't have to spell ever again (becoming illiterate) 4. You cultivate a virtual persona since childhood (becoming vain) 5. Did your life really happen if it wasn't posted online (the digital existentialist crisis -- do…

> swipe left and right to find your soul mate ... > Women only like 4% of the men they see on the app. > Men like more than 60% of the women they see on the app. this ends with 20 women with the same soul mate and 19 men without any. you need to add > no kids, no grandkids to your litany.

This is assuming all women and all men are equal parties here in terms of candidate quality. I've used these apps and men are not socialized to present themselves in a visual medium the way women are. I'm not talking men should be putting on makeup, but a shocking number of men don't understand grooming their facial hair to fit their face shape, framing a photo of themselves, etc.

Re: I do not want AI to "polish" me

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Post by [deleted] »

burkaman wrote: post #32

Obviously the AI version is bland and terrible, but arguably more importantly it has also completely changed the meaning of the message. The AI version: - apologizes - implies the recipient was "promised" this email as a "response" to something - blames a hectic schedule - invites questions None of this was in or was even implied in the original. This is not a "polished" version, it's just a straight-up different ema…

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Re: I do not want AI to "polish" me

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Post by xnorswap »

tlonny wrote: post #19

AI "polishing" tools are essentially a form of anti-compression. Lets take some information represented concisely and needlessly pad it with formalities and waffle so it appears more "professional" (whilst also throwing away useful "metadata" like message tone). No doubt the recipient will also be using some form of AI summarization that strips away all that added "polish" - making the whole exercise entirely redunda…

AI has simultaneously created two industries: One around using AI to pad out documents and another one around summarising with AI.

The more the first pads, the more the second is needed.

If AI really were Intelligent, I'd fear it's an organism making sure it's needed in the ecosystem.

Re: I do not want AI to "polish" me

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Post by bloomingkales »

miningape wrote: post #83
ebiester wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are alternate explanations here. Men do not put as much effort into their presentation as women do. Men are putting out profiles that show themselves as anti-woman, and that's unattractive. Men absolutely should be pickier - they would honestly only date people compatible with them, but try to cast the widest net rather than finding people they could vibe with. Men in the dating pool have become toxic, and wome…

No matter how much polishing a man does to his appearance / profile the biological reality is that women are sought after and men have to compete for their attention. There's some statistic along the lines of "the average female has about as much 'pull' as a male A list celebrity" This means that women will receive far more attention from the opposite sex, and therefore have an "easier" time finding potential partner…

Is it so hard to believe that going onto a digital marketplace with an order of magnitude more humans than you would ever physically deal with physically is probably what's leading to a type of thalassophobia (the fear of deep or vast bodies of water)?

Life is simple. He or she lived in the town, or your school, or was someone you pass by on the way to work daily. It's not some complicated digital dance where the universe presents to you all possible mates.

Date the person you wouldn't. Give it a chance, because you just don't know how this love stuff happens.

Re: I do not want AI to "polish" me

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Post by KittenInABox »

miningape wrote: post #83
ebiester wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are alternate explanations here. Men do not put as much effort into their presentation as women do. Men are putting out profiles that show themselves as anti-woman, and that's unattractive. Men absolutely should be pickier - they would honestly only date people compatible with them, but try to cast the widest net rather than finding people they could vibe with. Men in the dating pool have become toxic, and wome…

No matter how much polishing a man does to his appearance / profile the biological reality is that women are sought after and men have to compete for their attention. There's some statistic along the lines of "the average female has about as much 'pull' as a male A list celebrity" This means that women will receive far more attention from the opposite sex, and therefore have an "easier" time finding potential partner…

In my experience women are not statistically hyper selective. The less selective women are just out of the dating pool faster than the hyper selective ones. A lot of the women I know are happy to marry a man who grooms himself, respects basic boundaries, and has income. A lot of religious women in particular are socially pressured to drop the "respects boundaries" category also.

Re: I do not want AI to "polish" me

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Post by AyyEye »

MisterTea wrote: post #75

Is there anyone like me out there who has yet to use AI? I think it's interesting but I have no strong feelings for it. Aside from a few images generated with early image generators I have not used anything else, not even chatgpt. AI search results I mostly scroll past are an exception.

I haven't used any LMMs and I'm not missing anything. At some point in the last couple of years I have entered a couple prompts in chatbotgpt using my friend's account just to see it with my own eyes (funny enough asking slop, but before that was the word, and hallucinations). I also ran a prompt through llama.cpp just to see if it would work. It did, great, I don't really care.
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