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Craigslist Suing Padmapper

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Re: Craigslist Suing Padmapper

#11

Here's a nugget from the article which I didn't hear anything about in the previous Padmapper postings and chat here on HN: "The company said it offered a license that would have allowed PadMapper to use its data on mobile applications but that the competitor did not accept the terms."

How many people use PadMapper on a mobile device, vs. the desktop site?

Re: Craigslist Suing Padmapper

#12

Here's a nugget from the article which I didn't hear anything about in the previous Padmapper postings and chat here on HN: "The company said it offered a license that would have allowed PadMapper to use its data on mobile applications but that the competitor did not accept the terms."

It was in PadMapper's original blog post about the C&D letter

Re: Craigslist Suing Padmapper

#13
post #5

When you can't beat them, sue them into the ground. Craigslist is one of the poorest user experiences around and succeeds only because people insist on using it. The alternatives somehow manage to be even more spectacularly useless by over-designing their apps and cluttering them up with junk. Padmapper is one of the few that does what they're supposed to do, and it's not even an optimal implementation of this sort o…

> Craigslist is one of the poorest user experiences around and succeeds only because people insist on using it. So, to paraphrase, it only succeeds because something about it attracts customers. As opposed to other sites, which succeed by fairy dust and rainbows. If padmapper has a great user experience, that's wonderful -- They should be able to get customers to post their listings on it, and generate data without r…

It only succeeds because it has a historical legacy that's proving difficult to displace. This is the same thing driving eBay.

It's a difficult nut to crack. Kajiji seems to be gaining some traction, but it's trading one set of UX nightmares for another.

Re: Craigslist Suing Padmapper

#14
post #5

When you can't beat them, sue them into the ground. Craigslist is one of the poorest user experiences around and succeeds only because people insist on using it. The alternatives somehow manage to be even more spectacularly useless by over-designing their apps and cluttering them up with junk. Padmapper is one of the few that does what they're supposed to do, and it's not even an optimal implementation of this sort o…

> Craigslist is one of the poorest user experiences around and succeeds only because people insist on using it. So, to paraphrase, it only succeeds because something about it attracts customers. As opposed to other sites, which succeed by fairy dust and rainbows. If padmapper has a great user experience, that's wonderful -- They should be able to get customers to post their listings on it, and generate data without r…

CL won because it got the first mover advantage, and now benefits greatly from network effects. It could be much improved over what it is, but it has little incentive to change now.

Re: Craigslist Suing Padmapper

#15
Why is craigslist going after people who bring them traffic? Is it because they don't bring in much money themselves so they have to sell licenses? I've never really thought about craigslists business model. I assume it's almost entirely ad based / premium placement of your ad on their site based.

Re: Craigslist Suing Padmapper

#16
A key part of building a business around stealing IP is getting acquired by a big firm that can fight legal battles. YouTube executed well on this plan; I'm curious how Padmapper planned for this obvious development.

Re: Craigslist Suing Padmapper

#17
post #5

When you can't beat them, sue them into the ground. Craigslist is one of the poorest user experiences around and succeeds only because people insist on using it. The alternatives somehow manage to be even more spectacularly useless by over-designing their apps and cluttering them up with junk. Padmapper is one of the few that does what they're supposed to do, and it's not even an optimal implementation of this sort o…

> Craigslist is one of the poorest user experiences around and succeeds only because people insist on using it. So, to paraphrase, it only succeeds because something about it attracts customers. As opposed to other sites, which succeed by fairy dust and rainbows. If padmapper has a great user experience, that's wonderful -- They should be able to get customers to post their listings on it, and generate data without r…

Nah, they were pretty steadfast about offering only a mobile license and not being willing to talk about anything.

Re: Craigslist Suing Padmapper

#19
I'm very interested in the outcome of this as I am building a service similar to Padmapper in the sense that it uses data from other sources to make a better user experience for people, and I'd love to include Craigslist (Would be a big supplier of data for my users), but I don't want to deal with these types of things so I have been leaving it out.

Re: Craigslist Suing Padmapper

#20
The suit is understandable, but I wish craigslist would get over themselves already and allow users to look at listings on a map. That's all anyone really wants here, and this is getting a bit ridiculous.
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