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Re: Deferred resignation email to federal employees

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Post by bizzyb »

hn_throwaway_99 wrote: post #70
verelo wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ends up…i think it’s just happened. Been on this path for a while but the simple fact its treaties mean nothing totally trashes any reputation that was left, and it’s clear it’s run by the ultra wealthy. The people are just bystanders.

> and it’s clear it’s run by the ultra wealthy. The people are just bystanders. The first part is true, the second is not. Yes, it's run by the ultra wealthy. But the people wanted this. The election wasn't in debate, and this wasn't a case of a popular vote/electoral college split. Also, for all of Trump's faults, hidden agendas really aren't one of them. People know exactly who he is, he said pretty much exactly wh…

Doesn't necessarily change your overall point but Trump won a plurality of the vote, not a majority.

Re: Deferred resignation email to federal employees

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Post by bufferoverflow »

andy_ppp wrote: post #23

Anyone else think it’s likely America ends up without being a meaningful democracy by the end of this? I am skeptical the stated goal is efficiency it’s loyalty to MAGA. Imagine how extreme they will get if you can never vote them out.

How is president ordering to work from the office or resign - an end to democracy?

This narrative is pure bs.

Re: Deferred resignation email to federal employees

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Post by sundaeofshock »

hn_throwaway_99 wrote: post #70
verelo wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ends up…i think it’s just happened. Been on this path for a while but the simple fact its treaties mean nothing totally trashes any reputation that was left, and it’s clear it’s run by the ultra wealthy. The people are just bystanders.

> and it’s clear it’s run by the ultra wealthy. The people are just bystanders. The first part is true, the second is not. Yes, it's run by the ultra wealthy. But the people wanted this. The election wasn't in debate, and this wasn't a case of a popular vote/electoral college split. Also, for all of Trump's faults, hidden agendas really aren't one of them. People know exactly who he is, he said pretty much exactly wh…

The people did not want this. A majority of voters voted for not Trump. He also spent the bulk of his campaign — aided by the press — distancing himself from project 2025.

I’m on the left and I’m not resigned to this. I still have some fight left in me.

Re: Deferred resignation email to federal employees

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Post by malicka »

hn_throwaway_99 wrote: post #70
verelo wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ends up…i think it’s just happened. Been on this path for a while but the simple fact its treaties mean nothing totally trashes any reputation that was left, and it’s clear it’s run by the ultra wealthy. The people are just bystanders.

> and it’s clear it’s run by the ultra wealthy. The people are just bystanders. The first part is true, the second is not. Yes, it's run by the ultra wealthy. But the people wanted this. The election wasn't in debate, and this wasn't a case of a popular vote/electoral college split. Also, for all of Trump's faults, hidden agendas really aren't one of them. People know exactly who he is, he said pretty much exactly wh…

> The first part is true, the second is not

People wanted this because news and social media have told them to want – both which are functionally mouth-pieces of the ultra-wealthy. News has been consolidating into fewer hands for decades; it’s only getting worse, and their owners more emboldened. The popular social media sites, when not owned and manipulated directly by their owning oligarchs, are subject to a massive amount of astroturfing bankrolled by other ultra-wealthy folks. The wealthy chose Trump, and so it is.

We aren’t completely bystanders, but the cards are unimaginably stacked against us. We need to break up massive media companies, get rid of manipulative algorithms, and fight tooth and nail to get money out of politics – as much as we can.

Re: Deferred resignation email to federal employees

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Post by nullc »

kstrauser wrote: post #8
ceejayoz wrote: post #2

I wonder how many spoofed "From: potus@whitehouse.gov" "Subject: Resign" emails they're about to get.

One more now.

Impersonating a federal officer or employee is a crime. 18 U.S. Code § 912

(technically you have to obtain a document, money, or other thing of value to run afoul of that particular law, but getting a reply to a successful spoof might qualify, and who knows whatever other laws it might violate, 25 CFR § 11.432 perhaps).

Re: Deferred resignation email to federal employees

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Post by verzali »

andy_ppp wrote: post #23

Anyone else think it’s likely America ends up without being a meaningful democracy by the end of this? I am skeptical the stated goal is efficiency it’s loyalty to MAGA. Imagine how extreme they will get if you can never vote them out.

There's four more years of this. I no longer think there's a happy ending here, and we're way past the point of being merely concerning.

Re: Deferred resignation email to federal employees

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Post by tbossanova »

unmole wrote: post #48
llamaimperative wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And really, who wouldn’t want to work at a place with lower pay than almost anywhere and now horrendous job security and workplace conditions!

> horrendous job security and workplace conditions Isn't at-will employment the norm in America? How exactly is the job security horrendous?

I guess it will become as “horrendous” as the USA norm, while having lower pay and worse conditions.

Re: Deferred resignation email to federal employees

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Post by hug »

dillondoyle wrote: post #77
andy_ppp wrote: post #23

Anyone else think it’s likely America ends up without being a meaningful democracy by the end of this? I am skeptical the stated goal is efficiency it’s loyalty to MAGA. Imagine how extreme they will get if you can never vote them out.

Yes. I sadly agree with obama: we can survive 4 years. I don't know we can survive 8. “I think that four years is OK,” Obama said. “Take on some water, but we can kind of bail fast enough to be OK. Eight years would be a problem. I would be concerned about a sustained period in which some of these norms have broken down and started to corrode.” We're already far beyond some norms breaking down... Sadly I can't find a…

It was indeed an off the record chat, made public.

https://www.benzinga.com/government/22/10/29111070/obamas-ta...

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