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Re: Deferred resignation email to federal employees

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Post by imoverclocked »

bigstrat2003 wrote: post #27
andy_ppp wrote: post #23

Anyone else think it’s likely America ends up without being a meaningful democracy by the end of this? I am skeptical the stated goal is efficiency it’s loyalty to MAGA. Imagine how extreme they will get if you can never vote them out.

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I would say there is plenty of reason. When we stop living by the laws we put in place, stop pledging allegiance to our country, stop solving problems that the people of the country face while simultaneously start pledging allegiance to a single man [1] who breaks those laws[2] and cares little about the situation of individuals in this country[3], we are definitely on the road to ending our democracy.

[1] New whitehouse/government employees are being asked when their moment of “MAGA revelation” occurred. This. is. not. normal.

[2] Trump is a convicted felon, adulterer, conman, etc...

[3] See his response to many crises in his first term including his initial and continued denial of Covid

Re: Deferred resignation email to federal employees

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Post by uoaei »

bigstrat2003 wrote: post #27
andy_ppp wrote: post #23

Anyone else think it’s likely America ends up without being a meaningful democracy by the end of this? I am skeptical the stated goal is efficiency it’s loyalty to MAGA. Imagine how extreme they will get if you can never vote them out.

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Faith in the system is no substitute for the actual work of maintenance. Right now there are people in power actively dismantling the system -- faith is not enough.

Re: Deferred resignation email to federal employees

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Post by andy_ppp »

bigstrat2003 wrote: post #27
andy_ppp wrote: post #23

Anyone else think it’s likely America ends up without being a meaningful democracy by the end of this? I am skeptical the stated goal is efficiency it’s loyalty to MAGA. Imagine how extreme they will get if you can never vote them out.

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The problem is they believe the other side stole the election, has pizza shop child abuse cults run by Hilary Clinton, that liberals in the government are the “enemy from within” etc. etc.

With such beliefs any response becomes not only possible but reasonable.

Re: Deferred resignation email to federal employees

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Post by hedora »

spencerflem wrote: post #40
laidoffamazon wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think the chance is about 10%. That's too high of a chance, IMHO.

Genuinely, who are you expecting to stand up against it? The Democrats in Congress? Massive public demonstration? It feels all but inevitable to me

The Calexit people are gathering signatures right now:

https://www.sos.ca.gov/administration/news-releases-and-advi...

Re: Deferred resignation email to federal employees

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Post by verelo »

andy_ppp wrote: post #23

Anyone else think it’s likely America ends up without being a meaningful democracy by the end of this? I am skeptical the stated goal is efficiency it’s loyalty to MAGA. Imagine how extreme they will get if you can never vote them out.

Ends up…i think it’s just happened. Been on this path for a while but the simple fact its treaties mean nothing totally trashes any reputation that was left, and it’s clear it’s run by the ultra wealthy. The people are just bystanders.

Re: Deferred resignation email to federal employees

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Post by avs733 »

hedora wrote: post #7
ceejayoz wrote: post #2

I wonder how many spoofed "From: potus@whitehouse.gov" "Subject: Resign" emails they're about to get.

Yeah. I also wonder how many spoofed responses they will get in general.

And what plan they have to tell those apart (hint: none).

Doing so is exactly the type of abusive behavior abusive ex partners are known for.

Agree with it in principle or not, this system really belies the stupidity behind these scenes.

Governments and employers don’t do paperwork around hiring for fun - they do it for an auditable paper trail which has real and important value.

Re: Deferred resignation email to federal employees

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Post by unmole »

llamaimperative wrote: post #25
rahimnathwani wrote: post #22

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There’s nothing in there about being qualified for the job, Yes there is: Performance culture: The federal workforce should be comprised of the best America has to offer. We will insist on excellence at every level — our performance standards will be updated to reward and promote those that exceed expectations and address in a fair and open way those who do not meet the high standards which the taxpayers of this coun…

And really, who wouldn’t want to work at a place with lower pay than almost anywhere and now horrendous job security and workplace conditions!

> horrendous job security and workplace conditions

Isn't at-will employment the norm in America? How exactly is the job security horrendous?

Re: Deferred resignation email to federal employees

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Post by spencerflem »

hedora wrote: post #44
spencerflem wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Genuinely, who are you expecting to stand up against it? The Democrats in Congress? Massive public demonstration? It feels all but inevitable to me

The Calexit people are gathering signatures right now: https://www.sos.ca.gov/administration/news-releases-and-advi...

I'm in WA, could you extend it to all of Cascadia? ;)

Last time a state tried to leave there were words though. I doubt this will go smoothly

Re: Deferred resignation email to federal employees

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Post by [deleted] »

fooblaster wrote: post #33
bigstrat2003 wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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Did you miss the part where the mob that stormed the capital was fully pardoned despite the incredible violence? This is dictator shit. He's telling his supporters violence is okay against his political enemies and he will cover for you.

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