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Goodbye, Slopify

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Re: Goodbye, Slopify

#11

Post by swyx »

without any hate to the well intentioned engineers working on the thing, spotify has just exceedingly poor product taste in any number of dimensions

- the godawful ai dj they tried to force on pple

- buying gimlet media and running it into the toilet. some of the world's best and favorite podcasts, gone because some swedish billionaire decided to throw all his money into foie grasing a perfectly fine niche media company.

- buying anchor and going absolutely nowhere with it. it was never good so whatever. nice try i guess.

- locking up joe rogan and whoever to try to put walled gardens around podcasting (to this day when you go to a spotify page for a podcast it acts like it has never heard of "RSS" or "mp3". fucking offensive)

- they habitually screw over musicians https://harpers.org/archive/2025/01/the-ghosts-in-the-machin...

- reggie watts: https://www.instagram.com/p/DEhAr7lx7CI/?igsh=bXBpZ25kczMyZ3...

- bjork: https://variety.com/2025/music/news/bjork-spotify-streaming-...

- they faked spotify wrapped numbers https://x.com/hello__caitlin/status/1864367028758565216?s=46

- this is petty but they are a big step back from winamp and that is just slop https://x.com/riomadeit/status/1878556039676666024

i will say ONE nice thing. Gustav Soderstrom himself does make a pretty damn good podcast about spotify https://newsroom.spotify.com/2021-03-11/introducing-the-new-... . its a real shame his product is mostly riding the highs of early good decisions.

Re: Goodbye, Slopify

#12

Post by swyx »

swyx wrote: post #11

without any hate to the well intentioned engineers working on the thing, spotify has just exceedingly poor product taste in any number of dimensions - the godawful ai dj they tried to force on pple - buying gimlet media and running it into the toilet. some of the world's best and favorite podcasts, gone because some swedish billionaire decided to throw all his money into foie grasing a perfectly fine niche media comp…

if you are a l33t h4ck3r you too can despotify your life:

- get youtube premium, has youtube music with it. youtube music is basically straight superset of spotify.

- https://github.com/jam3scampbell/music

Re: Goodbye, Slopify

#13

Post by blackeyeblitzar »

Spotify is terrible but mostly because the interface is bad. It has so many frustrating changes that no one asked for that have accumulated over time and little annoyances / bugs that’ll never be fixed. I feel like basic things such as managing playlists or navigating my library are harder than they need to be. They deserve to lose.

I’m curious about some of the newer services such as Qobuz or Deezer or Tidal. Are they any better?

Re: Goodbye, Slopify

#14

Post by miunau »

I switched to Tidal about 8 years ago after discovering how bad the Spotify encoding was. With some songs the high end is just complete garbage that physically makes my ears hurt, for example Enigma's Cross Of Changes. The encoding on that is so bad on Spotify, or at least used to be. What a waste of money, effort and computing resources.

Of course, the best way is to buy either digital or physical releases, which I do for the ones that stick with me.

Re: Goodbye, Slopify

#15

Post by Barrin92 »

We're actually entering the timeline where you have to migrate to some Neal Stephenson Anathem-esque (digital) monastery where people cultivate knowledge. He really was onto this trend, in the newer Dodge books as well.

Maybe this is one of the few pro-social use cases for crypto, some sort of alternative net where people are verifiably real and content is authentic. I genuinely cannot understand how platforms are not taking more aggressive measures against this stuff.

Re: Goodbye, Slopify

#16

Post by moltar »

Does anyone have any good tools for migrating off of spotify?

And where to go?

I’d like Apple but their apps are horrendous and they completely bastardized the classic Music app pre streaming.

Re: Goodbye, Slopify

#17

Post by jsheard »

swyx wrote: post #11

without any hate to the well intentioned engineers working on the thing, spotify has just exceedingly poor product taste in any number of dimensions - the godawful ai dj they tried to force on pple - buying gimlet media and running it into the toilet. some of the world's best and favorite podcasts, gone because some swedish billionaire decided to throw all his money into foie grasing a perfectly fine niche media comp…

> locking up joe rogan and whoever to try to put walled gardens around podcasting

Not to mention blowing >$250M of their subscription revenue to lock down one podcaster when most of their subscribers joined for not podcasts. That money could have gone towards paying music artists better rates like Apple Music and Tidal do.

Re: Goodbye, Slopify

#18

Post by andrewfromx »

But the future is obvious right? If an AI citizen pays taxes, contributes to society, and has the same rights as humans, why would their creative expression be considered less "real" than a human's? They would be a legitimate member of society expressing themselves through music, just like any other citizen.

Re: Goodbye, Slopify

#20

Post by andrewfromx »

andrewfromx wrote: post #18

But the future is obvious right? If an AI citizen pays taxes, contributes to society, and has the same rights as humans, why would their creative expression be considered less "real" than a human's? They would be a legitimate member of society expressing themselves through music, just like any other citizen.

it's the same bias this grandfather has: https://youtu.be/KiPQdVC5RHU
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