Osaka bans smoking on all of its streets, vaping included
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Re: Osaka bans smoking on all of its streets, vaping included
#2Now we need every city to do this.
Re: Osaka bans smoking on all of its streets, vaping included
#3The cultural shift against smoking cigarettes over the last 2 decades has been fun to watch. Ironically, at the same time there has been an acceptance of smoking weed. You get dirtier looks and more likely to be harassed smoking a cigarette than you would smoking weed, regardless of place and time of day.
Not that one is better than the other per-se. But I just find it baffling how acceptable it is to see someone publicly smoking weed at 7am on a weekday. What does this guy's day look like? How can he function high all day? At least bottomless brunch is reserved for the weekend.
Re: Osaka bans smoking on all of its streets, vaping included
#4I'm gonna ask the same thing I asked when some city in Spain did this.
What happens to people who live in non smoking apartments and don't have private outdoor space to smoke?
I'm not sure what a "reasonable" carve out for these people would look like but people aren't idiots and they tend to resent individuals, groups and institutions that make their daily behavior unlawful with the stroke of a pen and the more policy subjects on which you do that the more resentment you build and eventually it starts road blocking other actions. Doing things that way is not what sustainable government looks like.
(edit: Disclaimer before anyone jumps down my throat, obviously the political realities of public policy and compliance are different in Japan than in the west.)
Re: Osaka bans smoking on all of its streets, vaping included
#5It was really amazing to see how little smoking is visible in Tokyo and Osaka these days, even taking vaping into account. I don't know what the smoking/vaping rates are, but it's increasingly confined to homes or small smoking areas which makes things much nicer if you're a non-smoker.
The fine is small, but I think in Japan the shame is probably the real punishment - 1000 yen might buy you two beers in a bar.
Re: Osaka bans smoking on all of its streets, vaping included
#6Japan is already pretty deep into the smokefree thing. Crazy proof about how adaptive the Japan team is
Re: Osaka bans smoking on all of its streets, vaping included
#7The cultural shift against smoking cigarettes over the last 2 decades has been fun to watch. Ironically, at the same time there has been an acceptance of smoking weed. You get dirtier looks and more likely to be harassed smoking a cigarette than you would smoking weed, regardless of place and time of day. Not that one is better than the other per-se. But I just find it baffling how acceptable it is to see someone pub…
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Re: Osaka bans smoking on all of its streets, vaping included
#9I'm gonna ask the same thing I asked when some city in Spain did this. What happens to people who live in non smoking apartments and don't have private outdoor space to smoke? I'm not sure what a "reasonable" carve out for these people would look like but people aren't idiots and they tend to resent individuals, groups and institutions that make their daily behavior unlawful with the stroke of a pen and the more poli…
Maybe these people can use one of these bags, but inside-out? [1]
[1] https://www.reddit.com/r/mildlyinteresting/comments/zultws/i...
Re: Osaka bans smoking on all of its streets, vaping included
#10I'm gonna ask the same thing I asked when some city in Spain did this. What happens to people who live in non smoking apartments and don't have private outdoor space to smoke? I'm not sure what a "reasonable" carve out for these people would look like but people aren't idiots and they tend to resent individuals, groups and institutions that make their daily behavior unlawful with the stroke of a pen and the more poli…
> What happens to people who live in non smoking apartments and don't have private outdoor space to smoke?
You switch to vaping (public health win!) or you move.