Where is the evaluation numbers? without it you can’t call it reproduction.
It is an announcement. A kick-starter if you like.
Then the title is misleading
Open-R1: an open reproduction of DeepSeek-R1
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You’ll want to use something trusted like Ollama to run the model. The model itself is just data though, like a video file. That doesn’t mean it can’t be crafted to use a bug in Ollama to launch an exploit but it’s a lot safer than you make it sound.
If used as an agent, given access to execute code, search web, use other form of tools, it could do potentially much more. And most productive usecases require access to such tools. If you want to automate things and get most of the modeel, you will have to give it ability to use tools. E.g. it could have been trained to launch a delayed attack if context indicates it has access to execute code and given certain cond…
A delayed attack is a bit of a stretch because that’s a stateful thing but a reminder of the Ken Thompson hack does feel very relevant.
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#123Earlier quoted context omitted.
No. My memory of the advent of the WWW was a sidebar in PC Magazine in Nov 1993 with an FTP link to download the NCSA Mosaic browser. It was a wow! moment to visit the few sites that existed. But nothing like this. What we’re seeing now is generating vastly more interest and excitement. It’s more akin to the 1999 dotcom bubble, but with far more impact and reach.
>far more impact and reach. Absurd, AI has had zero impact in the everyday life of most of the population of Earth, in fact the biggest impact has been upon the wallets of speculators
The internet had zero impact on most of the population of earth for quite a while too.
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#124Note: This is not an actual model but rather an announcement of an effort to reproduce the R1 model.
Exactly the title is misleading
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#126I wonder how long it takes to reproduce it and would having access to latest GPUs speed it up?
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>far more impact and reach. Absurd, AI has had zero impact in the everyday life of most of the population of Earth, in fact the biggest impact has been upon the wallets of speculators
I can tell you from personal experience that chatgpt is a game changer in universities and schools. Close to 100% of students use chatgpt to study. I know in our university pretty much everyone that attends exams uses chatgpt to study. Chatgpt is arguably more valuable then Wikipedia and Google for studies.
Let me add that this change compounds over time. More efficient studying results in more competent people. I believe it's very hard to measure the impact, but there is a very positive long term impact from how much these tools help with learning.
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That’s a good point. Wouldn’t OpenR1 suffer from the same problem? Or does being open somehow shield them from legal repercussions?
Some people believe they can dodge copyright issues so long as they have enough indirection in their training pipeline. You take a terabyte of pirated college physics textbooks and train a model that can pose and answer physics 101 problems. Then a separate, "independent" team uses that model to generate a terabyte of new, synthetic physics 101 problems and solutions, and releases this dataset as "public domain". The…
Knowledge laundering
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All this AI work is definitely driven by money but it's super cool either way. I'm so excited to be living through these innovations.
Money is in a lot of cases driven by need - so no conflicts
Need in itself is amoral. There's a reason people have been talking about which human desires are virtues and which are vices for millennia.
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#130Is this what the Web was like in the beginning? Something exciting and fascinating every week?
It feels that the open source movement is slowly entering a Cambrian explosion stage. You have the old "deterministic computing" achievements (with Linux the flagship). Then you have the networking protocols (activitypub / atproto) that are revolutionising birectional human interactions online. And finally you have the datascience/ML/AI algorithmic universe that is for the first time being harnessed at distributed sc…
To me it all feels suffocating, fake. Simultaneously there's a faint glimmer of hope that we indeed achieve AGI, unlock fusion and live happily ever after in an utopian, peaceful and mostly analog world.