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Open-R1: an open reproduction of DeepSeek-R1

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Re: Open-R1: an open reproduction of DeepSeek-R1

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Post by oldwebguy94 »

threeseed wrote: post #67
qwertox wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Much larger. Static HTML AJAX WebSocket, for example weren't it decades in between?

Once Javascript became available there were plenty of techniques. e.g. refreshing borderless iFrames to load new HTML and using hidden iFrames to load new state. AJAX made it much easier but it didn't offer anything that hadn't been done before.

Exactly -- see my other comment here:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42850693

I did this as the front-end engineer of a high-profile site that went live well before XMLHTTPRequest.

Re: Open-R1: an open reproduction of DeepSeek-R1

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Post by xenocratus »

catmanjan wrote: post #81
kaiwen1 wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No. My memory of the advent of the WWW was a sidebar in PC Magazine in Nov 1993 with an FTP link to download the NCSA Mosaic browser. It was a wow! moment to visit the few sites that existed. But nothing like this. What we’re seeing now is generating vastly more interest and excitement. It’s more akin to the 1999 dotcom bubble, but with far more impact and reach.

>far more impact and reach. Absurd, AI has had zero impact in the everyday life of most of the population of Earth, in fact the biggest impact has been upon the wallets of speculators

> far more impact and reach

> has had zero impact in the everyday life of most of the population of Earth

You do realise those two can be true at the same time, right? The first one is relative, while the second is absolute, so they don't necessarily cancel out.

Re: Open-R1: an open reproduction of DeepSeek-R1

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Post by michaelt »

szundi wrote: post #46
xvector wrote: post #26

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All this AI work is definitely driven by money but it's super cool either way. I'm so excited to be living through these innovations.

Money is in a lot of cases driven by need - so no conflicts

Pretty clear conflict between crocowhile saying "not driven by money but curiosity and collegiality" and xvector saying "All this AI work is definitely driven by money"

Re: Open-R1: an open reproduction of DeepSeek-R1

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Post by [deleted] »

catmanjan wrote: post #81
kaiwen1 wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No. My memory of the advent of the WWW was a sidebar in PC Magazine in Nov 1993 with an FTP link to download the NCSA Mosaic browser. It was a wow! moment to visit the few sites that existed. But nothing like this. What we’re seeing now is generating vastly more interest and excitement. It’s more akin to the 1999 dotcom bubble, but with far more impact and reach.

>far more impact and reach. Absurd, AI has had zero impact in the everyday life of most of the population of Earth, in fact the biggest impact has been upon the wallets of speculators

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Re: Open-R1: an open reproduction of DeepSeek-R1

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Post by numba888 »

jampekka wrote: post #29
nine_k wrote: post #11

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Jurisprudence, I hope! A huge heap of detailed cases, formal codes, decisions made and explained in detail, commented, overturned, etc. Especially civil cases. Also, probably, medicine, especially diagnostic. Large amounts of well-documented cases, a fair amount of repeatability, apparently non-random mechanisms behind, so statistical models should actually detect useful correlations. Can use more formalized tokens f…

A friend of mine just defended his law PhD and in the introductory lectio said that (even) current LLMs would likely give better verdicts than human judges. Law isn't really a cognitively such demanding task as walking a dog or waiting tables.

> current LLMs would likely give better verdicts

He probably meant _brainwashed_ LLMs. They can consistently produce desired results if you wash them the right way. It's more about personal opinion than computation. Actually it would be fun to manipulate verdicts with prompt injections ;)

Re: Open-R1: an open reproduction of DeepSeek-R1

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Post by ayewo »

bananaflag wrote: post #54
robin_reala wrote: post #41

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ActiveX XMLHTTP might have been released in 99, but it didn’t see any sort of real wider usage until 2004, 2005. I’d suggest its usage was really kickstarted when jQuery 1.0 launched in 2006 and standardised the interface to a simple API.

Gmail was the first time I saw a website which could refresh the information without refreshing the page. I was a teen back then but I realized it was something momentous.

OK, but I think it was Google Maps that made the experience of not needing to refresh the page popular (while being shown more information from the server).

For a long time, you needed an invite to sign up for Gmail, so you couldn't easily share the cool experience of AJAX with others like you would with a Google Maps link.

Re: Open-R1: an open reproduction of DeepSeek-R1

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Post by [deleted] »

catmanjan wrote: post #81
kaiwen1 wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No. My memory of the advent of the WWW was a sidebar in PC Magazine in Nov 1993 with an FTP link to download the NCSA Mosaic browser. It was a wow! moment to visit the few sites that existed. But nothing like this. What we’re seeing now is generating vastly more interest and excitement. It’s more akin to the 1999 dotcom bubble, but with far more impact and reach.

>far more impact and reach. Absurd, AI has had zero impact in the everyday life of most of the population of Earth, in fact the biggest impact has been upon the wallets of speculators

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Re: Open-R1: an open reproduction of DeepSeek-R1

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Post by openrisk »

ipnon wrote: post #10

Is this what the Web was like in the beginning? Something exciting and fascinating every week?

It feels that the open source movement is slowly entering a Cambrian explosion stage.

You have the old "deterministic computing" achievements (with Linux the flagship). Then you have the networking protocols (activitypub / atproto) that are revolutionising birectional human interactions online. And finally you have the datascience/ML/AI algorithmic universe that is for the first time being harnessed at distributed scale and can empower individuals like never before.

These superpowers are all coming together and create a vast number of possibilities. Nothing really dramatic on the hardware side. Its basically the planetary software reconfiguring itself.

Re: Open-R1: an open reproduction of DeepSeek-R1

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Post by planb »

catmanjan wrote: post #81
kaiwen1 wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No. My memory of the advent of the WWW was a sidebar in PC Magazine in Nov 1993 with an FTP link to download the NCSA Mosaic browser. It was a wow! moment to visit the few sites that existed. But nothing like this. What we’re seeing now is generating vastly more interest and excitement. It’s more akin to the 1999 dotcom bubble, but with far more impact and reach.

>far more impact and reach. Absurd, AI has had zero impact in the everyday life of most of the population of Earth, in fact the biggest impact has been upon the wallets of speculators

So had the companies that crashed in the Dotcom Bubble. And still a pet food delivery service (like the infamous pets.com) can be a profitable and sustaining business now (> 20 years later).
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