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The Prisoner's Dilemma: a summary, and new advances

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Re: The Prisoner's Dilemma: a summary, and new advances

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Post by losethos »

I'm bored. I could sit in a cell and talk to God. What's yer point.

God says... C:\Text\Words\AUGUST.TXT

wledge admit of any thing transitory. "What will ye say then, O ye gainsayers? Are these things false?" "No," they say; "What then? Is it false, that every nature already formed, or matter capable of form, is not, but from Him Who is supremely good, because He is supremely?" "Neither do we deny this," say they. "What then? do you deny this, that there is a certain sublime creature, with so chaste a love cleaving unto the true and truly eternal God, that although not coeternal with Him, yet is it

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Through prayer, I have killed over 100 cops over the years. Is that what you're getting at?

Re: The Prisoner's Dilemma: a summary, and new advances

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Post by scotty79 »

I played against extotionist strategy and I guess I got lucky because I'm leading (my score - 1) : (his score - 1) = 2:1 and won't change into 1:3 as advertised because from this step I will always defect.

    25. You defected (1 points) and I defected (1 points)
    24. You defected (1 points) and I defected (1 points)
    23. You defected (1 points) and I defected (1 points)
    22. You defected (1 points) and I defected (1 points)
    21. You defected (1 points) and I defected (1 points)
    20. You defected (1 points) and I defected (1 points)
    19. You defected (1 points) and I defected (1 points)
    18. You defected (1 points) and I defected (1 points)
    17. You defected (1 points) and I defected (1 points)
    16. You defected (1 points) and I defected (1 points)
    15. You defected (1 points) and I defected (1 points)
    14. You defected (1 points) and I defected (1 points)
    13. You defected (1 points) and I defected (1 points)
    12. You defected (1 points) and I defected (1 points)
    11. You cooperated (0 points) and I defected (5 points)
    10. You defected (1 points) and I defected (1 points)
    9. You defected (5 points) and I cooperated (0 points)
    8. You cooperated (3 points) and I cooperated (3 points)
    7. You defected (5 points) and I cooperated (0 points)
    6. You cooperated (0 points) and I defected (5 points)
    5. You defected (1 points) and I defected (1 points)
    4. You defected (5 points) and I cooperated (0 points)
    3. You cooperated (3 points) and I cooperated (3 points)
    2. You defected (5 points) and I cooperated (0 points)
    1. You cooperated (3 points) and I cooperated (3 points)

Re: The Prisoner's Dilemma: a summary, and new advances

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Post by nopassrecover »

scotty79 wrote: post #3

I played against extotionist strategy and I guess I got lucky because I'm leading (my score - 1) : (his score - 1) = 2:1 and won't change into 1:3 as advertised because from this step I will always defect. 25. You defected (1 points) and I defected (1 points) 24. You defected (1 points) and I defected (1 points) 23. You defected (1 points) and I defected (1 points) 22. You defected (1 points) and I defected (1 points…

I found I could get better than 2:1 against extortionist fairly easily by mixing up my strategy as well.

Re: The Prisoner's Dilemma: a summary, and new advances

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Post by gjm11 »

scotty79 wrote: post #3

I played against extotionist strategy and I guess I got lucky because I'm leading (my score - 1) : (his score - 1) = 2:1 and won't change into 1:3 as advertised because from this step I will always defect. 25. You defected (1 points) and I defected (1 points) 24. You defected (1 points) and I defected (1 points) 23. You defected (1 points) and I defected (1 points) 22. You defected (1 points) and I defected (1 points…

> won't change into 1:3 as advertised because from this step I will always defect.

From the description of the extortionist strategy in the demo: "The only way you can avoid being taken advantage of is to resign yourself to the meagre rewards of mutual defection, and to defect on every turn."

So: yes, indeed you can do that, but then your long-run score will be rotten because it will look like a vast succession of (D,D) plays, 1 point each. If you let the Extortionist extort you, you will get substantially more points.

Re: The Prisoner's Dilemma: a summary, and new advances

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Post by CaptainDecisive »

The parable about the elephant and the goldfish was wonderful.

I imagined, when the time is right, telling it to my little boys as I tucked them in to bed at night. And then imagined one of them coming in to my bedroom later that night and beginning with "Papa, why did the elephant ...".

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