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Re: We're bringing Pebble back

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Sleep (and nap!) tracking precision in Pebble is still waaaay ahead of Apple Watch.

Apple Watch is packed with sensors that Pebble never had, but it can't reliably detect when I'm sleeping. It even woke me up once with a go-to-bed reminder! (only once because I turned that off immediately).

Apple's tracking naively uses my configured "Downtime" start time as a reference for when I'm "in bed". That's not a measurement, that's made up data!

Re: We're bringing Pebble back

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post #162

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You can download the SDK and side load applications. No annual developer fee. Not sure how it’s more locked down.

Don’t know about Apple Watch development, but the scope of what you can do with Garmin's SDK is limited, apps run in a VM, ie no native code with respective performance issues and, as important, their developer support is a complete and utter garbage. It's a lucky day when someone from Garmin graces Forums with their presence and bestows few sentences they think could pass for an answer. In other words, yeah, the SDK…

You run native code on the Watch itself and most of the limitations are around not doing anything that will kill the small battery.

Re: We're bringing Pebble back

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post #127

Oh man. I own an Apple Watch, but I made it a point years ago to buy an OG Pebble off eBay to be my first smartwatch, and the sheer elegance of the UX is still something I pine for. I very dearly miss the daily timeline, which was sheer UX brilliance. Only niggle: Portugal isn't on the list, but yeah, right... Other it is.

Neither is Ireland. Things like this make it clear that one lives in a Tier 3 country...

Re: We're bringing Pebble back

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post #243

> PebbleOS is now open source > Proprietary source code has been removed from this repository and it will not compile as-is. So much for “open source”. Must have been some nasty telemetry in this OS.

Telemetry was included in what was open sourced, e.g. https://github.com/google/pebble/blob/3b927684809fba173ee540...>

My read of that caveat from Google is that the code that was removed was third party code that Pebble had a proprietary license to use, thus it was not Google's to release.

Re: We're bringing Pebble back

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post #53

lol image creating a beloved tech product, growing the company to the point where it gets acquired by a tech giant, and then waiting until they spit it back out so you can start it all again. Congrats to Eric. This whole thing is so funny to me and I can't wait for my new Pebble.

Patience is a virtue :)

Re: We're bringing Pebble back

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post #45

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Garmin Fenix 7 (and potentially Garmin Fenix 8 Solar) are reasonably button-y and kindof work "right" from a pebble fan. The biggest miss for most smartwatches is "buttons", "battery life" and "sunlight-readable screen". Buttons work without sight, buttons work in the shower (next track, volume, scrolling a notification, declining a phone call, stopping a timer), buttons can be "memorized", you can navigate buttons w…

The Garmin Fenix 8 is $1,099

I finally found a used 7 for $300 on FB marketplace, only 2-3 months ago. I still swallowed real hard before buying it, but I'm satisfied enough with it that even with the 7, I've been nosing around to see if any 8-solar (presumably transflective, not OLED) are around in the ~$500 price range.

Pebble Time Steel debuted at $250 in 2015, ~$350 in todays dollars, and the Fenix is much more capable not just the hardware but also health tracking.

That's why a comeback pebble is worth supporting (for me). Fenix has decent/"fun" SDK apps, but their core UX is only moderately good. I still get confused about which button to use to get to apps vs quicklooks vs data widgets vs shortcuts, and setting a 15 minute timer is way more confusing than it should be.

Apple: max 3 days battery life, and that's in the $800+ price range

AmazFit: maybe? but never enough to risk over $100-200 and no great "has buttons" option

BangleJS: no buttons.

PineTime: no buttons.

YadaYadaYada: no battery, oled screen, no buttons, or no customization

Getting another Pebble for $300 retail or $200 used with full backwards compat, their SDK and emulator, and a path forward? Sign me up!

Re: We're bringing Pebble back

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post #98

Please for the love of all that's holy pay attention to us, swimmers. We may not be nearly as large a group as runners but we are very underserved by the tracker watch market. The world needs only so many glorified pedometers. I know that tracking strokes, laps and swim distance is much harder than steps. But it's doable because Apple mostly gets it right. Yet nobody beside Apple seems to have nailed the simple pool…

In my experience, Garmin counts pool lengths just fine, with maybe 1 out of 20 being miscounted?
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