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Re: Purelymail: Cheap, no-nonsense email

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I also use this. Pros: super cheap. Cons: UI is bad, so you'll want to access through a client. 1 person shop. Not audited AFAIK.

+ is not gmail. + is industry standard, supported by almost all mail servers (if configured) since long before gmail existed.

The problem with "+" isn't the email side.

The problem with "+" is dumbass Javascript developers who use broken regexes to "validate" an email address.

Re: Purelymail: Cheap, no-nonsense email

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post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They have an optional writing assistant thing that uses their own in-house model. Sweden is mostly hydro and nuclear, so the environmental arguments against generative AI don't hold up very well.

oh lmao , I had just watched a video where people were confusing sweden and swiss (heck the swiss president missaid switzerland to sweden lmao) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0oNX_BHgi3c I was like , okay nobody confuses swiss and sweden but here you are!

It's the insidious sw

Re: Purelymail: Cheap, no-nonsense email

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post #17

Customer for a few years now. I don't do anything fancy with it. It was the cheapest and most appealing option for a custom domain for personal email. I think it runs me ~$11 a year or something I combine it with simplelogin to handle all my aliasing needs. Thanks for the great service.

What do you need SimpleLogin for? Purelymail supports aliases on its own.

Re: Purelymail: Cheap, no-nonsense email

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post #108

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As miles pointed out, the risk is not that they lose your data. The risk is that you lose your account. They don’t owe you a data download if they decide to terminate the business relationship which they can do at any time without notice or cause. You agree to this when you sign up. Not having backups of important data in your own possession is just plain stupid. You’re paying them to be online 24/7 and speak IMAP/SM…

This is such a remote possibility, at least with Fastmail, that I do not consider it reasonable to implement my own backup solution. If they are going to shut down, it isn't going to occur imminently and without any warning. It's an easy statement to make: "just take a backup". But that requires me to dedicate time to implementing a secure and automated solution (and of course, routinely testing restoring it). I'm no…

> dedicate time to implementing a secure and automated solution

Why not just use a mail retrieval agent[1][2] to download mail via IMAP?

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mail_retrieval_agent

[2] https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/List_of_applications/Intern...

Re: Purelymail: Cheap, no-nonsense email

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post #4

Seems like a reasonable alternative to Proton for multiple domains: email that costs money instead of being haunted by AI. That logo is creepy though, and implies exactly the opposite.

Their comparison of themselves to Proton is rather deceptive. If you're willing have only 1GB of storage, instead of 3GB, you can get proton for free. And at the price they list ($48/yr), you'd get 15GB storage, plus a lot more. And no, I was not paid by proton to say this. I only have the free plan.

Proton does not allow you to use standard protocols (IMAP/SMTP), which is a deal-breaker for me.

Re: Purelymail: Cheap, no-nonsense email

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post #69
post #63

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You should be backing up your email locally regardless, even if you use Google Workspace or Fastmail.

I don't agree with you. A key reason to host your email with a reliable cloud storage provider is to have backups handled for you. Fastmail is particularly good in that respect, since it takes periodic backups for you, allowing deleted items to be accessed. To put things in perspective, I dare say that many large commercial organisations who rely on Office 365 are not backing up emails locally. They do likely have fa…

> A key reason to host your email with a reliable cloud storage provider is to have backups handled for you

Is it only email you don't back up or do you not back up any of your data that's stored on companies' servers?

Re: Purelymail: Cheap, no-nonsense email

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post #122
post #108

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As miles pointed out, the risk is not that they lose your data. The risk is that you lose your account. They don’t owe you a data download if they decide to terminate the business relationship which they can do at any time without notice or cause. You agree to this when you sign up. Not having backups of important data in your own possession is just plain stupid. You’re paying them to be online 24/7 and speak IMAP/SM…

This is such a remote possibility, at least with Fastmail, that I do not consider it reasonable to implement my own backup solution. If they are going to shut down, it isn't going to occur imminently and without any warning. It's an easy statement to make: "just take a backup". But that requires me to dedicate time to implementing a secure and automated solution (and of course, routinely testing restoring it). I'm no…

The risk is not that they shut down, the risk is that you lose your hosting account.

It happens all of the time.

Downloading your mailbox is trivial, comparing it to self-hosting is not accurate. (I do both.)

Re: Purelymail: Cheap, no-nonsense email

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post #130

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It's gmail in the sense that they deliver you+[whatever]@gmail.com to you@gmail.com By default it's just a valid character.

nope, exactly this feature you describe is what i am referring to. it's not a gmail invention. not by a long shot.

Not a gmail invention perhaps, but also not per RFC. That some use it to mean something special is not in the RFC. Actually, a significant number of SMTP servers don't even implement the required parts of the related RFCs, let alone fancy things like plus handling.

Re: Purelymail: Cheap, no-nonsense email

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post #158
post #122

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is such a remote possibility, at least with Fastmail, that I do not consider it reasonable to implement my own backup solution. If they are going to shut down, it isn't going to occur imminently and without any warning. It's an easy statement to make: "just take a backup". But that requires me to dedicate time to implementing a secure and automated solution (and of course, routinely testing restoring it). I'm no…

The risk is not that they shut down, the risk is that you lose your hosting account. It happens all of the time. Downloading your mailbox is trivial, comparing it to self-hosting is not accurate. (I do both.)

Why would I lose access to my Fastmail account? That risk is a remote one. I have 2FA, they take backups and provide support, and they are a reliable company (at least, not a one-person operation).
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